thats very nice of you to say @shepz1, some people i know said that maybe i should do a post on it, but seriously i did not want to 1 I am not one for begging and besides any amount of money will not bring back my poor old boat and my belongings from the depths so why bother i thought to myself ?? thanks so much for your kinds words, i do need some good luck coming my way soon, i would be most grateful sure )