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7.11.2016 (3)
HLI: Question Time Part 2
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/pol/: Have you ever seen or heard on Ad-Dajjal? I know for a fact that many people of high status are working for the "one eyed pyramid" and the “illuminati".
HLI: Yes.
/pol/: Pray tell, what potential do we have nowadays?
Why is it not put to use?
Please do explain this and give examples.
HLI: We estimate the ability to deliver a sustained 25%+ GDP growth rate for a period of no less than 30 years.
That's roughly equivalent to giving every person on the planet a lifestyle similar to a low end billionaire today.
/pol/: By whom and why would you be executed?
What examples could you give of untold or poorly explained events history?
HLI: People are assassinated if they are considered extreme threats to the system. You don't have to be overtly threatening. A particularly damning piece of journalism or a simple invention that upends an industry could do it. Or even being highly charismatic but not amenable to the current way of doing things.
/pol/: What is "only a matter of time"?
What do you mean by saying that "the public dialogue is meaningful”?
HLI: I think I cited a major solar storm before? There are major catastrophic event drivers that happen on a regular basis. New diseases, etc.
We as a species don't really deal with outlier event possibilities, even if they are practically guaranteed over ~100 year horizons.
/pol/: Why would you not -for example- cure a friend of mine who has been diagnosed with lung cancer -he does not smoke-?
I really would not want him to die because of something you claim we have the ability to cure.
HLI: Why him and not everyone else? And there are real problems with the everyone else part.
/pol/: Was Obama groomed from childhood to become President? I remember the cringeworthy shilling by Conan O'Brien before he was even running for President. And his mother was trying to introduce microfinance to third-world shitholes for the Ford Foundation so she was clearly at least a low level insider.
HLI: He's been groomed since a young age, yes.
/pol/: Steve Jobs wasn't one of you? Why was he allowed to die?
HLI: More of a choice of his than anything. Jobs had a strange relationship with fatalism.
/pol/: Do you reach out to these people and attempt to reason with them and find a mutually beneficial compromise regarding their journalism, new invention, or charisma, or is the immediate knee jerk reaction to assassinate them?
HLI: We reach out to some people yes.
Others take pleasure in their own self-destruction, or knowingly doing things that will lead to it.
/pol/: Do you guys believe in bible prophecies? Thoughts on the coming day of the Lord?
HLI: In some sense, yes, in that you can reasonably anticipate where society will go far into the future.
Furthermore, they are self-fulfilling to some extent.
/pol/: Are we at risk for any civilization threatening catastrophes in the near future? Are there contingency plans for these sorts of evens, or can things spring up that leave us all (including secret societies) fucked?
HLI: There are a lot of potential catastrophes and very little is mitigated. We're very concerned about the wanton disregard for rational planning.
/pol/: In relation to the issue regarding the cure for cancer, is part of the cause for not distributing it in relation to those of old age developing neuro-degenerative diseases making the point of curing them almost pointless?
and also how are the cures for these conditions coming along?
HLI: Sort of. At some point of degeneration, you might need a full job worth of effort to care for one person. At some point you simply lack the manpower to do anything else.
/pol/: You encourage us to learn, to become "magicians". Are there particular roadblocks we must be aware of? Is it necessary to forget/unlearn things taken as established? What do you think are the most overlooked domains of knowledge that deserve more interrogation if we are to develop?
HLI: Your biggest roadblock will always be your assumptions about limitations.
/pol/: You said: "We experienced at least one near complete dark age from ~10,000 years ago to ~5,000 years ago."
8000 BC is when humans finally started agriculture, and literacy invented 4000 BC. Between 8000 BC and 3000 BC humans accomplished the foundation of civilization.
Are you suggesting humanity regressed somehow?
HLI: It's well known that there was a catastrophic event 10-15k years ago and that many of our megastructures that persist to this day are from a civilization that existed then but leaves no other trace than lore.
/pol/: Who raised Obama then? Who are his handlers? Saudi?
HLI: He's a creature of the CIA primarily. Family has always been part of back to WW2
/pol/: What is going on at CERN?
Are they actually trying to open a portal so Satan can incarnate physically?
Also what religion do you follow?
HLI: No.
Not aware of any good name for my beliefs in the public domain.
/pol/: Is attaining high levels of intelligence and understanding within reach of anyone (Who asks the right questions), or are many of us just biologically and/or mentally incapable?
HLI: No, some people don't have the potential.
You are not going to find a kid with Down's Syndrome inventing the next blockbuster drug.
There are of course both more and less severe biological limitations.
/pol/: is there going to be any war soon between big powers?
I'm sorry if this question was previously asked.
HLI: It isn't reasonable to expect world-ending nuclear war. It is reasonable to expect increasingly testy territorial conflict and influence peddling.
/pol/: what sort of lore? religion?
HLI: In part, yes
/pol/: how does the future look ? does humanity have any hope ?
HLI: I think so.
/pol/: Are you doing the right thing in your opinion?
HLI: Honestly not certain. But doubt is probably a good thing.
/pol/: I find it overwhelmingly hard to wrap my head around the fact that no one knows a single thing about your organisation "three". Why is that exactly? Supposing you're a real thing to exist, how have you managed to keep it a secret? It is inevitable that somebody in your organisation bursts at some point.
We don't need you. We want you.
You want us to see the big picture, yet you won't give much insight to what the big picture really looks like.
Honestly, I think you are a role player. You want us to think clearly and realistically; to be sceptical. You made up a fictional secret organisation to prove your dumb point, that we are not really sceptical at all.
HLI: It isn't true that you know nothing. False premise.
Countless people speculate about our goals and methods on an hourly basis because you see the fingerprints we leave behind.
/pol/: The question would be why not him at least? Why would you not allow the cure to be used in him and live? He is only 22 years old and he contributes to society.
HLI: Can't justify picking and choosing like that and don't know how to manage a world where everyone has access.
/pol/: Is
some people don't have the potential
Meant to imply that a significant part of the population without birth/genetic defects do have this potential? Significant being above 5-10%?
HLI: Substantially higher than 10% have potential from a genetic standpoint, yes.
Often other factors destroy that. Malnutrition as a child, early severe disease, car accidents, unhinged drug addiction, etc.
/pol/: What technological advancements have we achieved that are not publicly known or have not made available to the public?
HLI: We have access to essentially arbitrary levels of energy generation at higher rates of return than that. The economy is primarily a function of energy input, thus the conclusion - to be simple about it.
/pol/: Are any efforts being undertaken to lower this potential in the general population?
How can one avoid such efforts?
HLI: Yes, on a wide variety of fronts.
Your best defense is the ability to take care of your physical needs rather than outsourcing to the market, whether for food or education.
/pol/: >wanton disregard for rational planning.
Define this. What does it mean?
HLI: Tendency to ignore events with a small probability in a short time frame, but high probability over the long run.
/pol/: Could you give an example of such an event?
HLI: Everything from intense solar storms to legitimate terrorist attacks to disease outbreak.
/pol/: Is telekinesis possible? Don't hold out on me!
HLI: Not to my knowledge.
/pol/: If this is real, they're likely sitting on the following: advanced medicine, advanced weaponry, advanced computers, advanced communication, and non-fossil fuel energy that is more dependable than wind and solar power.
HLI: All of the above, yes.
/pol/: Then why do we have the cure for so much other stuff? Maybe not cancer, no, but we do have public accesss to antibiotics to prevend from dying from stepping on a nail or something extremelly stupid like a cold.
Why would that be public and a cure for cancer not?
HLI: Cancer cure in particular is controlled because most life extension technology has this as a side-effect.
It is much harder to extend functional life than to maintain a geriatric state.
/pol/: Are you familiar with Taleb's writing on antifragility? Have you factored this into your plans? He would laugh at you for thinking humans can plan for every possible catastrophe.
HLI: Compensating for known risks is different than compensating for all risks. The first is a benchmark for a reasonable society, the second probably unprovable and impossible.
/pol/: Was 9/11 an (((inside job)))?
HLI: Yes.
/pol/: Would taking such steps have one flagged as a threat? Would having posted or viewed in this thread at all have made someone a threat?
Is being a threat a worldwide death sentence, or are there areas of the world and spheres of influence in which someone can maintain safety?
HLI: Independence isn't threatening, generally speaking. Interference is.
/pol/: How many miles deep is the location where you work?
HLI: I prefer high elevation environments.
/pol/: Let's talk about the elephant in the room.
Artificial Genersl Intelligence doesnt exist now. Howver, we know it will in approximately 20 years. How does this economy or way of living survive the advent of such a technology?
Further, how do we survive the interim where strong Artificial Narrow Intelligence begins to obliterate white collar jobs?
The goal is 0 unemployment and to lay in green pastures, but how are you all planning to get everyone through the darkness to the new sunrise?
HLI: We are inclined towards socialization of novel input resources while leaving most of the existing way things work untouched, including existing ownership claims.
If we can generate say 1,000 times as much energy as the world currently uses, we can give you an equal allotment of it to trade. You retain individual or corporate ownership of means of utilizing this energy, the derived products, the value of your labor, etc.
/pol/: I personally think that is a great conspiracy. No way the military is way more effective in developing technology for themselves than scientists and smart guys are for the free market. It just doesn't make sense.
HLI: This is part of why the world is incompatible with hegemony.
Inventors have exclusive access for a period of time if for no other reason than they are the only one that knows how to do something.
/pol/: How do you communicate with each other in the age of mass surveillance?
Who controls the surveillance networks, in terms of your "factions" model?
HLI: No surveillance technology is particularly sophisticated. Have you ever spoken something that meant one thing to a broader group, but another to a particular peer because of an inside communication history?
Highly intelligent individuals are highly adept at this, so we can speak volumes without you even knowing the conversation exists.
/pol/: What could be considered an "extreme threat to the system"?
Define "the system".
Who would kill the people considered to be a threat and what examples of people killed in history for being considered a threat can you give?
HLI: This changes over time.
With distrust of your regime at such astronomical levels, even small catalysts can get out of hand.
/pol/: Will a cure for cancer ever become publicly revealed?
Do we have any kind of technology to travel in time?
Why did 9/11 happened? To create a war and sell weapons?
HLI: Yes
No
There isn't a singular answer to 9/11. It covered up financial crimes, gave an excuse for a more totalitarian state, justified foreign intervention, stabilized the unipolar economic arrangement, etc.
/pol/: From the factions you listed Dark Priests, Kings, Meritocracies, and Good Priests (it wasn't completely clear if this is the faction to which you belong), which faction(s) do Obama, the Clintons, and Soros belong to?
HLI: Good priest.
Soros, Obama are dark priests
Clintons are kings
/pol/: Do you have any evidence or belief in a life after or before the current one?
And if so, that one retains the same self from "life" to "life" ?
HLI: No.
/pol/: What would you hope to accomplish by posting here?
HLI: We want you to become us.
/pol/: So, essentially a form of Universal Basic Income where property ownership and the ability to create, innovate, and sell our goods remains intact?
It sounds as if you goobers realize the way to a protopian society that doesn't stagnate and continues into an unlimited future. I'm glad you all have the right idea about the future, if I'm not mistaken.
HLI: Sort of, but we don't base this concept on a "right" to a certain set of goods or view it as a redistribution scheme.
/pol/: When will women be allowed in your ranks as equals?
HLI: They already are. They tend to deviate from the norm less than men, and we're hardly an ordinary bunch - so they are markedly underrepresented.
/pol/: Were explosives placed in the WTC towers to demolish them or did the burning jet fuel really melt the steel beams blah blah blah?
HLI: Jet fuel cannot melt steel beams (or weaken them sufficiently to cause collapse)
/pol/: If that's the case, why shouldn't everyone live as hedonistically as possible?
HLI: It isn’t in your self-interest.
/pol/: What are your most important values?
HLI: Caution, Imagination, Achievement
/pol/: Tell us how to stop clinton, soros and the rest of the elite that seem to want to fuck up the world
HLI: Become an alternative.
/pol/: Actually I get this, I see it far too often in millennials that belief of ''life should be lived to it's highest pleasures'' often end up with a plethora of stresses such as sexual diseases, drug addiction, identity issues and must work their asses off to support these hedonistic lifestyles this correlates with high suicide rates.
Am I on the right track with this line of thinking?
HLI: Sure, but that's just in the short-term.
Much of the stress they seek to escape (but only bring on more stress) is induced by a hedonistic outlook of their predecessors
/pol/: Answer this question.
If I'm to become you, what would be the most important step to take? Whats the one most impactful move to make?
HLI: Acquire a means of ensuring your own survival against opposition.
/pol/: If, for example, I were to apply myself and begin along a path that would change the world in a positive way (from your perspective), but by doing so, I would be a threat to one of your rival factions and they would try to assassinate me, would you save me?
HLI: Probably not. You exhibit a severe lack of judgment in inducing threats you are not capable of dealing with.
/pol/: Wait but you said that once you get big enough they ll blackmail threaten or kill you
HLI: You don't live in the 19th or even 20th century. Power is usually not derived from numbers or size.
/pol/: Are the Georgia Guide Stone population control numbers real? If so, what is the coming event which will kill/eliminate the majority of the world's population while still leaving the remaining number? Who gets to set that number?
HLI: No.
/pol/: But if doing research and asking questions is the only way to reach your level, and, presumably, doing research and asking questions will draw a lot of unwanted threats, how are we supposed to survive long enough to achieve anything?
HLI: Seek your power and your most important answers quietly. You don't need me if you've made it that far though.
/pol/: What important events are probably going to happen in the coming months/years from now?
HLI: You have another financial crisis coming in the near future. There will be an intense war of ideas with respect to how to reshape society with lasting consequences that plays out as a result.
/pol/: Are you talking about blackmailing people?
HLI: That's an option, but that is how your current regime works. Do you want something better, or new boss meet old boss?
/pol/: Was Trump being the Republican nominee despite the money being in Jeb Bush's favor part of your plans?
Have plans for humanity shifted because of an outlier in general?
HLI: Jeb only entered the race to give the false impression of the establishment being rejected.
Yes
/pol/: Well if I don't need you once I've gotten power, and you won't help me when I don't, then what good are you to me? Do you just want more powerful people in the world?
HLI: We are pointing you in the right direction.
/pol/: In your opinion, what is the ideal role of the artist in society?
Do you think artists play an important role in society right now?
HLI: A cry in the night.
/pol/: What is the outlier?
HLI: We are in a phase of history where individuals and/or small groups can exert themselves as geopolitical powers, given appropriate technological sophistication. The balance is shifting and opportunity exists where it hasn't always.
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