We've lost over 1m users that onboarded, and all the network effects that would have generated since 2017. HW is why. We're down to ~3k actual users - if half of them aren't bots - and shrinking. The problem isn't caused by HW. HW is the solution oligarchs have implemented to prevent Hive from becoming a hot property that would be bought out from under them by legacy capital, which is an unavoidable consequence of being a pure plutocracy.
All it takes to take over Hive is more money. Fat staked oligarchs don't want to lose their ROI and have to get actual jerbs, so they'll crush Hive into ashes until all that's left is a circle jerk they can't monetize anymore, and then they'll worry about getting jerbs. They pay lip service to freeze peach but crush it to keep the user population down and secure their oligarchical status. That's where we're at, and that's how it's going to be.
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It's not impossible that they have just changed to controlled demolishing accidentally. Do they want all their holding to go down that Bitshares way? Certainly not, but will it at the current trajectory? Hmmm. There is this dark mass people, violently hating $Hive because they got Freedom promised to them and after arriving here, they got served Hive-Watcher and their insane demands.
Some of the demands:
... and so on ...
and as the cherry on top of the cake:
I see a lot of missed chances and broken hearts with this Bullruns development already. Everyone who sold the dream of great success with buying and holding $Hiver has already been dealing with the backlash. For the steep decline is User, the price has held pretty good. I see that as the Bull Market gains getting eaten up by people off-boarding themselves and their holding.
But I'm certainly not bearish generally. If the Bitcoin driven Bear Market kicks in again late 2024/ maybe early 2025 the truth will be made visible. The market is always right, without exception.
No, no, no. All kinds of market manipulations cause the market to be utterly deceptive and can even utterly destroy them. Look at fiat. The dollar was sound once, and now it's a joke. The market for dollars is being destroyed, and the world will pay a heavy price for that.
Otherwise, I just don't have the interest you do in currencies. I didn't come to Hive for money. I came to dodge censorship, and I'm still here because I can still dodge censorship here. I'm allowed to, for some reason, and I don't actually know - or spend much time trying to find out - why, but I'm going to take this opportunity to speak forthrightly as I have it.
We are in agreement about the harms of HW, however. I pay that much attention to currencies, at least. Some few of those demands you listed make sense, but the majority of them do not, and are excuses to crush Hive down to an unpalatable investment Big Fi won't swallow. Big Fi hasn't spent the time to learn that Hive could be made into whatever they want it to, and that's fine with me, and with the oligarchy, but most of the folks that came here for tokens disagree and would happily sell out for a moonshot.
I would be unhappy if that happened, because it would inevitably be accompanied by censorship and cancel culture, which would eliminate freeze peach here.
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