I am good on RC, it's taken care of because I knew people. And I'm quite certain I'll end up paying it forward to someone or someones as well, just as I used to do the same with delegations when I maintained a funded account, was a top witness etc etc in the past.
It's not a matter of me not understanding how it works, it's a matter of completely thwarting new registrants from their first day. You can't say "post and earn!" as your mantra and then the reality be "you can sorta look around, but it will cost you to do much else and eventually you might earn, but only if you manage to last that long" first.
Yes its "been around since steemit" but only the very last days of steemit. I believe I was still running a node when it happened, even. And I didn't like it then either. When you joined steemit in the old days, you paid to sign up, it was like 6 steem or something, but it cost you, and it was advertised as such. Some communities sponsored free reg methods and covered it, ("something like SPL onboards people and provides the RC") while still other people paid to come in and play. And you were weak when you came in that way, but you weren't impotent completely.
As for SPL providing the RC etc bit, yes, thus eliminating the very same RC problem for their players that we are discussing right here itself. They have to do that, because otherwise nobody would or rather could play at all. Your solution there solves the problem Im presenting perfectly. It removes the problem that would otherwise stop the growth of their game. See how that works? Remove the problem or lose the players. Now do the whole ecosystem....
RC isn't money. The idea was never about "handouts" since it's not money at all, and that's a mistaken take from my point of view. But it takes some money to have some so its conflicting in itself. RC was always about restricting accounts from posting bulk spam to farm rewards, and honestly, at this point, there are other mechanisms preventing that from being a way to do much anyway, especially without at least one funded account to drive the upvote farm in the first place.
So it's a bit like locking a 2 foot tall fence. It's not really protecting anyone from much of anything but its keeping the "honest people" locked out to some degree at the time when they should be most enthusiastically diving in headlong and learning to love the place.
Just because someone said "post and earn," that doesn't mean that's what we do here. That's just someone operating in a decentralized environment, providing their vision, and maybe not explaining things properly.
I'll go tell DPresident. lol
Also, a few months ago I watched Vibes onboard quite a few musicians. Because they had guidance, there were issues of course, but someone was there to help.
RC is the reason this platform isn't a dumping ground. Look around. It's like one of those robot vacuums.
But it's not up to Hive to solve these problems. Hive is an inanimate object.
Dpresident made me spit my coffee through my nose 🤠
Hive is a dynamic software system, far from inanimate in this specific context. A program, which is defined as a set of operating instructions for the machine and in our context also rules for the user's operations. I am merely pointing out that either the rules need to be posted on the door like they were when we DID have big adoption 7 or 8 years ago, or they need careful reconsideration because I think the limits they enforce may create more difficulty for the ecosystem than they prevent. In that sense, it's entirely up to the Hive ruleset to be the place where such problems are solved. Or at least the registration page instruction set.
P.S. Dpresident cracks me up.
So. Let's talk about this registration page.
Which one? Would you like to tell LEO how to write theirs? SPL, Liketu, and so on.
It's not like it was back in the day. I still chuckle that we all got away with calling it Stinc. We don't even have those posts any more where we'd all go gather, all walks of life from every direction, and yell at them.
People run their businesses and if their guidance isn't sufficient, it'll come to a point where they have no choice but to fix their problems.
These days we have communities. There's always someone at the helm and a lot of members willing to help on their own. Even those intro posts. Been awhile since I looked but usually there's someone spamming a really shitty, overwhelming, TMI comment to every noob walking in the door, explaining things like RC.
I've sat with inexperienced members, explaining things.
To me, it's just life. If you want to drive, one learns how to drive first. People, for centuries, have been fine with that.
Those are some valid observations about the dApps, none that I can really argue with. To be honest, we've spent a lot of time on RC which was a point in my post for sure, but not really the main point overall, just sort of part and parcel to it.
Good lord I miss those stinc bomb posts. I'm one of like only 8 or 9 people that Ned actually fully blocked (Someone showed me he blocked account list one time back in the day from some block explorer or something back then) and I always regarded that as a badge of honor. I don't think even Aggroed ever fully blocked me completely to this day, and we've tangled WAY harder than the fires I ever held Ned's feet to.
And no, I wouldn't expect to tell all those dApps and communities how to operate, but I'd surely like to sometimes. And knowing me, if there's a venue where I can, I usually would and do. Especially if they are doing slightly slimy things like one in particular I've used this week that was fairly surreptitiously taking an 11% cut of the post rewards via automated beneficiaries.
Again, totally fair as a stipulation of use but its not disclosed on their site, their faq, their docs or in any posts from their authors I could find and I dug around and looked specifically for it after noticing it. I do not like surprises that could look shady simply because it isn't made clear before I used their interface instead of one that isn't taking a premium off the top.
It's really difficult to respond to an entire post. It's common for me to pick a piece and just go from there. And now we're talking about ned. I have/had the Muted by Ned badge as well. Never really knew why either. And it actually upset some people because apparently I was making sense that day (miraculously).
I can't say I agree with automated beneficiaries. Some people don't even know how to check which "authorities" they've granted. Dig deep enough into something like Peakd (quality product IMO) and it's all there. Even RC is explained in the wallet.
First day on the job is always the hardest. I always joke, "It's my first day, but I start tomorrow."
And I don't mind if you have grievances with the place. Everyone does. Me? I just go with the flow. I've been yapping about "get paid to be supportive" and things similar for years. The way I see things. I don't ever expect it to catch on.
I think we fond our common ground here again. it's been a rational discourse and I appreciate that very much. BTW, Im not the only OG to reappear on the same day lol, Crim just posted for the first time in a year and some others I know are "back" this week too in various ways. Something must be in the air.
As you can see, I don't post any more. Oddly enough became active again quite recently myself. I've always been on and off though.
https://peakd.com/life/@nonameslefttouse/im-officially-retiring-from-writing-hive-posts
It's heavy on the sarcasm. Or light. Depending on how you see things. I still care about the things I care about. Just not as emotionally and mentally invested anymore.
It's always good to see people returning.
https://peakd.com/about/faq