Hey Hivers!
After seeing a Tweet from acidyo that showed that some brand using our logo I just went off and thought it was absolutely bonkers. On top of that, this brand is also using the exact name. Hive. I'm not going to share this Tweet here, to prevent more traffic from going to their website (as crimsonclad mentioned), but this is just unbelievable and unacceptable.
Either way, I feel that there is still a lot to do for Hive and we must embrace Web 2, and start registering our Hive name, even if we don't use the accounts, this example shows how important it is to at least lock these names in.
Wikipedia
As I was browsing Wikipedia, I noticed Hive isn't there yet.
So, here's where I just went on autopilot and started writing a page for Wikipedia. Usually, I wouldn't do this, because my morale would first want to ask someone for permission. But who do we need to ask for permission if we are writing facts? Besides, we are the chain! And once a Wikipedia page is added, it can be edited by anyone.
I also know how hard it is to get Hive on there. But, with our heads together, and some OG's that took part in starting the chain on March 20, 2020. I'm sure we can fact-check our way to Wikipedia. So, please reach out to me, as I will be busy formatting the page, or feel free to make adjustments (and keep an eye on the page) once the page is live, and accepted.
LET'S GET HIVE ON WIKIPEDIA
Currently working on a "declined" draft for Hive, which gives me/us about 6 months to submit a new version of it.
- Facts
- No biased tone of voice (the greatest, best, unique, etc.)
- No political/sides --> neutral only
If I were to think for myself, I'd like to add the following. But if you have better suggestions to add. Do share. Take a look at Bitcoins Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin <-- this is what we need. Dump any articles you can find about Hive here, and if you have time, do a short non-biased summary.
- History
a. Founding (2020) - Design
a. Assets
b. Accounts
c. Nodes
d. Transactions - Applications
- Notes
- References
### History
##### Founding 2020
Hive was founded on March 17, 2020, and launched on March 20, 2020, by a vast community of decentralization proponents. Hive is a hard fork of Steem, developed by Daniel Larimer, and is under further development by the Hive community itself. The announcement of the Hive launch was made on the 17th of March 2020., by the official account of Hive, which was created on the 6th of March 2020
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##### Hostile Takeover
In 2020, Justin Sun acquired Steemit Inc.[a]. Dan Larimer left Steemit Inc. before the sale, and Ned Scott sold Steemit Inc. for roughly $8 million to Justin Sun. A significant number of stakeholders got their tokens stripped away[3], which happened right after Justin Sun took over the blockchain Steem. This event led to the creation of Hive, a fork of the Steem blockchain, created by a decentralized community.
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##### Hard forks
```CTA:Anyone```
HF20: Introduction of Resource Credits (RCs) [6]. RCs are non-transferable credits that accrue to each Hive account based on how much Hive Power (HP) it has. An account spends RC when it transacts on the Hive blockchain. RCs regenerate over 5 days. If an account doesn’t have sufficient credits, the transaction will not be allowed to occur.
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### Design
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##### Assets
The Hive network comes with two classes of cryptocurrency assets named HIVE and Hive Backed Dollars (HBD). Moreover, HIVE exists both in a liquid form (simply called HIVE) and a staked form (called Hive Power). HIVE is the liquid currency of the Hive ecosystem. It may be traded, staked, bought, and sold. Hive Backed Dollars are intended to be pegged to the United States Dollar (USD) at a one-to-one rate. Hive Power (HP), the staked form of HIVE, is vested during a process referred to as a ”power up”. Upon being powered up, ‘’Hive Power’’ can then be entirely or partially un-staked at will, in a process referred to as a ”power down”. Staked HIVE then returns to its liquid form (i.e. HIVE) in equal amounts over 13 weeks period, with a segment delivered every 7 days.
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##### Accounts
Accounts on the Hive blockchain, are Self-Sovereign-Digital-Identities (SSDI) to provide flexible functionality based on a set of standards-based primitives for building decentralized identity applications in a modular manner. Accounts are also universal and allow instant access to any application that is being built on top of the Hive blockchain.
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##### Addresses
All Hive accounts are non-fungible tokens that serve as easy to recognize user-handles, and wallet addresses.
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##### Nodes
**Witness nodes**
```CTA:Anyone```
**Seed nodes**
```CTA:Anyone```
**API nodes**
```CTA:Anyone```
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##### Transactions
```CTA:Anyone```
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### Applications
```CTA:Anyone```
Blockchain versus Cryptocurrency
There is a difference between blockchain and cryptocurrency. Due to the records of Wikipedia and comments here that validate that, the chances that just HIVE (or HBD for that matter) is getting listed, will be very slim (which is to be expected). On the other hand, if we talk about just the blockchain, and have less focus on the cryptocurrency (HIVE and HBD) and refer to or just mention built-on-top applications, I think the chances are much higher to get Hive on Wikipedia.
Once you understand that Hive is more than HIVE, Hivepower or HBD
The common mistake many people make is confusing Hive with currency or a social blogging platform. Social Media Platforms have become a big part of our lives, which makes it understandable that Hive is huge as well. What if I told you that a Social Media Platform like Hive.blog (or any other interface), is just only one possibility that we can create on Hive, what would you say? What is Hive?
Hive is more or less a, distributed computing project, simplified. A decentralized network that runs validated data, the output of this data is what we’re reading right now, made possible by applications build on top of Hive. Hive is decentralized, but for example, LeoFinance itself is centralized, which is in this case not a bad thing at all. You see, LeoFinance utilizes the Hive blockchain, which shares only validated, and decentralized output data. For example, your LeoFinance blog is readable on Hive.blog, PeakD, Ecency, etcetera. This is a huge difference if we were to talk about HIVE the currency, which is a currency, simplified.
From this perspective, we basically strip down Hive to the core, and are left with just the things that make Hive, Hive. And here is where we see the magic. And if we can explain this magic, with "backed" 3rd party non-biased, and non-crypto-web-related articles, we should be able to get Hive listed. Oh the irony of Web2...
Formatting
The formatting looks familiar to MarkDown.
Visual
Declined
This is way too little information to get accepted on Wikipedia, I wasn't expecting to be reviewed this fast, but it's nice to receive some feedback this fast so I know what to look out for.
I've started to write a bit more and thought it would be nice to start from the beginning.
If someone knows exactly which block number Hive was loose from Steem, that would be amazing. Couldn't find anything in block #41801981 https://hiveblocks.com/b/41801981, but it's good to see my friend louis88 there.
Any information you provide is more than welcome! If you're a (dApp) developer, and you want your full name on here, please let me know as well.
The Infobox
The infobox visually looks like this. Below you will find the format where I can add information. I'd like to add our core-dev team to it under "developers". The current list of Witness nodes is limited to 100 on Hiveblocks.com, out of 100, 13 are inactive, but I have a feeling we have more than 100 (Witness) Nodes running.
{{Infobox distributed computing project
| name = Hive
| logo = File:Horizontal.svg|thumb|Hive logo
| logo_caption = Logo for Hive
| author =
| developer = Martin Lees, Dan Notestein, Gandalf, Abit, Bartek Wrona, ABW
| released = {{Start date and age|2020|03|20|df=yes}}
| discontinued = (html comment removed: Set to yes if software is discontinued, otherwise omit. )
| latest release version = ‘Evolution’
| latest release date = {{Start date and age|2022|10|24|df=yes}}
| frequently updated = Yes
| latest preview version =
| latest preview date =
| status = Active
| goal =
| software =
| funding = No VC funding
| programming language = [[C++|C++]], [[Python (programming language)|Python]]
| operating system = [[Cross-platform software|Cross-platform]]
| platform =
| size =
| language = Multilingual, but primarily English
| genre = [[Distributed computing]]
| license = [[Open-source license]]s
| standard =
| as of =
| performance =
| active users =
| total users =
| active hosts = 87/100 (2022-09-10)<ref>{{Cite web |title=Witnesses – hiveblocks.com - The Hive Network & Node Explorer |url=https://hiveblocks.com/witnesses |access-date=2022-11-04 |website=hiveblocks.com}}</ref>
| total hosts =
| website = {{URL|hive.io}}
}}
{{Infobox cryptocurrency
| currency_name = HIVE
| image_1 = File:Icon of Hive.svg
| image_2 = File:Icon of Hive.svg
| alt1 = Icon for HIVE
| alt2 = Icon for HIVE-Backed Dollar
| image_title_1 = HIVE
| image_title_2 = HBD
| symbol =
| alt_symbol_title_1 =
| alt_symbol_1 =
| code =
| previous_names =
| nickname =
| precision =
| white_paper = https://hive.io/whitepaper.pdf
| implementations =
| code_repository = https://gitlab.syncad.com/hive
| project_fork_of = Steem
| developer =
| source_model =
| block_explorer = https://hiveblocks.com
| ledger_start = {{Start date and age|2016|03|24|df=yes}}
| split_height =
| split_date =
| split_from =
| split_ratio =
| hash_function =
| issuance_schedule =
| timestamping =
| merged_mining_parent =
| block_time = 3000 milliseconds
| block_reward =
| circulating_supply =
| supply_limit =
| exchange_rate =
| market_cap =
| using_countries =
| footnotes =
| catISO4217 =
}}
If you know, you know... I don't. If you do: Please fill in the blanks <3
REF links
Ref links are a BIG thing on Wikipedia, without adding reliable sources -other- than just Hive's mentions etc. it will be a really difficult task to get Hive on Wikipedia.
The formatting for reference URLs is as follows:
<ref>{{Cite web |last=AUTHOR_NAME |date=PUBLISHED_DATE |title=ARTICLE_TITLE |url=LIVE_URL_TO_WEB |access-date=ACCESSED_ON_TODAYS_DATE |website=PARENT_DOMAIN_NAME}}</ref>
Finding articles about Hive is already a PAIN due to Google's "shadow ban". <-- this is giving even more reason to have a Wikipedia that is capable of storing -all- this these valuable information in articles. Wikipedia is based on facts, not on controllable algorithms like Google.
If you'd like to help, make sure to check out that the article is an in-depth article with date and author included.
This comment section
Please, I encourage you to provide factual non-biased information about the Hive blockchain, and if possible, provide an outside source (URL), so I can implement your bit in the wiki page. Use the comment section for this. Also, please check if someone has submitted what you're about to submit (or has already been added by me). My vote isn't worth much, but I'll try to see if I can curate any work you've shared with me.
Hive LOGO
I've added the Hive logo (roelandp, it's CC licensed right?) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Icon_of_Hive.svg, please let me know if this reference is fine or needs to be adjusted. I've also added the HIVE and HBD logo to give more body to the info-boxes. Will need to re-upload for proper licensing.
According to RoelandP's blogpost, I believe it is a CC BY-ND-4.0 license (could you please verify this, Roeland?)
Wiki guru?
Hit me up on Discord! Let's make this page real and help me out. All the help is welcome.
If you're curious about the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Hive_(blockchain). ALL HELP IS WELCOME!
Cheers,
Ruben
ps; I'll be updating this page as I update the Wikipedia page.
pps; I'll be removing tags for updates, dont want to spam.
I'll try to find some of the people who have initially worked on getting one over the years and direct them towards this. Up until this point, the big thing that has kept all of our attempts being declined is apparently having someone who has the necessary "level" of wiki cred being the one to put things forth, as well as referenced articles. We have a lot of those, but thus far, apparently the big stumbling block is having an already accepted wiki editor help push any draft attempts along.
Nice! I changed the "cryptocurrency" infobox to a "distributed computing project". Might help a bit. Received a message about potential sanctions and strict guidelines.
I'll be updating this page every now and then (just added the format/code for the infobox to show what we potentially can add). I'm pretty eager to add our list of developers, do you happen to know where I can find/or do you have a list/know (all) the core-devs that work on Hive?
Thanks a lot already Crim!
@gtg has been trying to find people who can get new writes and edits accepted in this space since... Maybe 2020? Wiki is very very fussy about anything crypto related, as you say. Perhaps this category and a focus on the blockchain itself will be enough to sneak by
The hive.io site that others have linked is one way to have a few people highlighted. You can also use the gitlab repo as a documented list for a source link
https://gitlab.syncad.com/hive/hive/-/project_members
To be honest, if you don't get a renowned editor behind, you won't succeed.
My wiki article was rejected because in Wiki's opinion, the Hive wasn't significant enough 🤷
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@jocieprosza/don-t-let-wikipedia-miss-out-on-hive
You may use my article freely if you want.
Btw I started little project thet if won't succeed will be used to hire a Wikipedia editor
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@jocieprosza/to-earn-a-ruble-and-to-keep-virginity-get-hive-listed-on-stakecube
Hey! Nice to see someone else putting in the work to get Hive listed on Wikipedia. Luckily, we are 2 years ahead. And perhaps, with a different approach and a more neutral tone-of-voice, we might have a shot.
Fingers crossed. I don't claim my entry was good, but I have provided links to article yet Hive was said to be insignificant. I passed on trying.
Good luck to you
Here is a list of developers provided by https://hive.io/
https://hive.io/contributors
Also on the page is an email address to contact the project team, they may be able to provide you with information.
Thank you kindly sir
I think there was something mentioned about Hive by a third party last year... I'm trying to remember if it referred to the social media aspect or what.
Edit: I think that it was on Yahoo, and it was about the social media aspect.
Do you think mentioning Splinterlands might help??? Also this might be easier to get accepted once the Hive Movie is released?
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I found several articles on Yahoo covering Hive.blog the application, but haven't found an article yet that covers hive.io the blockchain.
and so on... all these findings of articles will be helpful! Because it will give us 1) more knowledge on how the world perceives us, and how much they understand what Hive is (we need to send out accurate information/or ask for rectification), and 2) we can filter the accurate information and categorize it for the Wikipedia article.
So, if you have spare time to scan the web for just a few articles like that, it would be helpful!
I'll definitely try to make some time... Should I put the results in here, or somewhere else?
These might be helpful too once they are created / shared?
https://ecency.com/hive-132595/@coldbeetrootsoup/hive-infographic-contest-1000-hive-grand-prize
Good idea, I've added a comment where everyone (if they like) can dump links to articles.
https://peakd.com/hive/@rubencress/re-rubencress-rkzls5
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I have worked on getting Steem on Wikipedia, wp only had Steemit back then, but did not differentiate between the crypto Steem and the company Steemit, it was one of my most stressful times at Steem, it felt like a war, moderators constantly deleting stuff, not respecting references from crypto news site as a reliable source, threatening to remove the entire page, which they eventually did.
Wanna give it another shot? :D
I think if we have a well-written in-depth draft to send, it might go through.
Maybe a better strategy is to first try including Hive on other wiki sites / encyclopedias like Everipedia and crypto wikis. Then if it is included everywhere with high quality articles to try again on wp.
Unfortunately I dont think it will go through, it's too political, wikipedia basically opposes everything related to crypto.
Kind of strange as they used to accept donations in crypto :D
It's really a shame that no one has done it before, but I expect that this will improve the growth of the platform. Thanks for your work🍻 !BEER
Fork was scheduled 14:00 UTC if my memory is correct, also https://hiveblocks.com/b/41818752 does not load so I would assume it is the block. I wonder why the explorer won’t serve that block though, if it is a bug or if it is trying to intentionally hide something.
Thanks!
This is really a great iniative that Hive should be added in Wikipedia @rubencress. I believe that tons of great talents here would support you for this.
To be honest I am shocked that HIVE is not on Wikipedia, If I was told by a random person on hive Blockchain i won't believe but because it is from @rubencress it a real source, I am very glad you noticed early, We are supposed to be on Wikipedia to me HIVE is no small Blockchain but a worldwide thing, I will do my best to spread this information across the Blockchain because to be honest not all will see this article and I'll do my best to support.
Uhive sucks too
good idea 👍
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It's fairly easy to get added to wikipedia, you will need non-crypto news site articles to back its creation
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