I know that you asked several people to unvote me. Liar.
Also, why should I repeat the criticism of the proposal that many people have brought forward, and they all were ignored? If you wanted to work in a constructive way, the proposal would have been updated with a clear plan how the money will be spent instead of you using your contacts to big stakeholders to punish someone who doesn't do what you want. Then we all could've made an informed decision if we support the plan.
A plan for the funding have been published
https://peakd.com/splinterlands/@splinterlands/splinterlands-dhf-proposal-follow-up
Regarding personal interactions; I think you have room to improve yourself, just like aggy does. This morning the way you have treated me, your friend for 6 years, is probably something that needs improvement.
No matter the outcome of any proposal or witness votes, we are human. I want to be treated as one. I don't think you did that this morning.
For the record. I have no witness, I do not own any project, and I don't care what happens to my investment. None of my interactions were driven by that. And yet, since I didn't agree with you on this, you have mistreated me.
Now I get mistreated all the time, it is not an issue; but coming from a friend and for no aparent reason; it hurts more.
One hour ago. A little late, don't you agree?
You told me this would be the consequences of my actions. If you're okay with voting according to my values having negative consequences in a unrelated matter, I misjudged you all this time. Good to finally see your hypocrisy.
I just feel like there's an opportunity here for better language. There's a bridge here that's worth being built, and disrespect is the biggest barrier to it. Let's try to get on the same page.
Yes. Late for sure. By 8 days?
Proposal have many months left. I have seen numerous funded proposals without a cost breakdown. There are many currently on the docket.
None of my action has anything to do with vote. No one asked me to vote this or that. I said even if they did to me (which nobody did) it would be fine. Because people lobby for a cause all the time.
I have asked people to vote. You have asked people to vote. There are things we agree, there are things we don't agree. There is no need to any drama.
What I said to you, I stand by it. As a human, all our actions have consequences. Yours have too. This is a life advise and this is also a fact. I stand by my comment. Fortunately, I can share my thought in public, the language that you have used against me this morning, you will be ashamed to repeat.
This should've been part of the original proposal. Or added as soon as people asked for it.
I don't mind asking for votes. I do mind putting others down who don't vote the way you want.
Speaking of consequences, how's the proposal doing?
I agree, that this should have been part of the original proposal. But life happens, and people get busy. I have many other things on my plate, so does Matt. I have requested the feedback regarding this earlier to Matt. I got busy and he got busy.
And you also know why I am busy. I will be going through a major surgery. You know that. No one else does (until now). Why, because you are my friend. I am sorry, but I am slowly loosing my senses on my fingers, so it is hard for me to type. This is a symptom for the condition that I am having.
Regarding consequence. I think the proposal is doing fine. It is not my proposal, but I do support it. I believe there are other people support it too. If the combined net support gets higher than the return proposal it will be funded.
Now if you excuse me, I need to stop typing, because I can't feel my fingers.
Good luck on your surgery AZ . That is far more important than all this!
This isn't about you or Matt being busy, it's about aggy blackmailing, bribing and bullying. Well, and you defending him, which felt like a kick to the stomach.
It was funded. Without this fuckery it still would be. And in this case the consequence is justified by the action.
Yes, I again agree.
Let me know what can I do to make you feel better.
I am not Aggy. Aggy is not CEO of SL. Matt is not Aggy.
If you have a problem with Aggy, you two need to sort it out yourselves. It is not necessary to involve others or make a public drama about it.
I haven't defended anything. I only said your actions have consequences. So does Aggy's, so does mine.
Gl on the surgery 🙏
Unvote comment- I should clarify that there were multiple people that acted entirely of their own accord and I made a handful of requests. The statement as it reads is true, but doesn't include the other part, which I've done here.
Repeat the criticism- a short line about you concurring with someone else would be great as it conveys the concern without much work on your part. It's a reality of stakeweighted dpos that you have asymetric considerations of accounts expressing concerns.
Big stakeholders to punish- I contend that voting your stake how you think it ought to be used is a fundamental aspect of this chain. you can vote the proposal. others can downvote posts or alter witness votes. that's been fair game as long as I've been here.
Hindsight I could have paused to ask why you were downvoting the second the proposal passed, but at the time it definitely felt like you were attacking this project. Sorry I escalated quickly.
Just because someone doesn't have a big stake, their concerns aren't less valid. Just shows how you are used to backroom deals and using your stake to blackmail and bribe.
I followed the public discussion, and wasn't satisfied by the replies. That's your fault
And that you conflate the different types of votes, and think using one to enforce another, doesn't make you look good either.
Maybe you should just be quiet and meditate a bit.
I would like to rebut the idea that
"Just because someone doesn't have a big stake, their concerns aren't less valid."
I have been trying to reach out to senior Hivers in a professional way for over 6 months and have repeatedly been ignored or just been told that my ideas don't count cos i only have 70hp.
Hive is not at all welcoming to people that do not have big stakes and it is missing out on good inpuit because of this.
We all need to do better abnde I would like to ask you to set a good example....
If you bought 1 share in Apple, would you expect the large stakeholders to listen to your ideas?
HIVE reflects this in a similar way. That's the way of the world whether you like it or not.
I don't think that is a viable comparison to be honest, not least cos there is no such thing as "the way of the world". That phrase is as big a copout as "nothing personal, omly business", beloved of crooks and thieves everywhere!
As I have found out over the last few months, Hive is a decentralised social media platform primarily, which is a brilliant idea.
However, just as Bitcoin is better money, we need to be a better community in which all voices are valued, not just a clique of oldtimers, which is what it is now....
Both Splinterlanders and Hivers need to do better.
Many of the large stakeholders are 'oldtimes' not in the sense of their real age but the time they have lived here.
Would you have someone who joined yesterday making big decisions? They care in their own way, and of course it's about money..., what else?
yes, i totally meant in terms of having been on hive a long time and nothing ageist.
size of stake should not be weaponised and surely newcomers should be at least heard, rather than dismissed like presumptious children? 🙂
And in my view, this is a problem.
I don't even look at wallets when I talk to someone.
Maybe we could have a chat then please? I promise nothing more than coherence, doability and transparency... 😀
Sure. I'm available on discord any time.
Thank you