I am going to go forward with some variation of what was mentioned but it will be more effective for me to do so on ICP for multiple reasons. For starters out of all my recent videos in the last several months the ones with the most engagement have been when the ICP community shows up.
There are just more eyes on it at this point. There are more active users on something like OpenChat than there on on HIVE at this point.
It is more advanced tech with faster finality and the ability to store pictures, NFTs, videos.....etc on chain.
What HIVE has is more apps built out on it that have a longer track history and a more fully developed economy. I like the premise of the HIVE Backed Dollar and being able to earn interest on it and ultimately I do like some of the components built out on the HIVE Engine and the ability to get out to other chains without going through centralized exchanges. This is a little harder at this point with ICP but you can do it by trading into ckBTC or ckETH and getting back out to those chains and then work my way to something else. So it is possible.
I feel like at this point STEEM and Blurt aren't ideal candidates for this proposal for various reasons.
I think in summary after being here for 8 years it just wouldn't make sense for me to do all this to prove myself when the DAO Funds are being under utilized and the chain is losing ground. If I'm to go through all that and spend my own money to do the liquidity pool and all that why go the extra distance of pitching an ecosystem where the active users has dropped clear to 4,000 people and I don't have any significant control of the ecosystem? Why not just stop at the point of pitching the meme and stopping there?
Well then, dude. That clears things up. I'll take your word for it. If you don't think this is the place to do it, then that's a perfectly fair reason for me not to support this.
If that's where your heart is, that's where your heart is. It's not up to me to change your mind.
If I'm weighing out ICP vs HIVE and I have no funding or support than yeah I would do it on ICP based on what I know from the last year and also if it is the Jimmy Sandfield play it is more relevant on ICP because Jerry just left them a couple of weeks ago so it is fresher in the ICP community's mind. More liquidity and several other factors.
Why would I wait for 8 years to maybe have a tryout?
The proposal would have to get significantly more support and there is a hesitation for people to even submit proposals at this point because the lack of approval. What is the point of the Hive Fund when it doesn't even come close to getting utilized?
Not everything gets approved because that's life. Everyone knows that so also include there's a lack of confidence. Just because something might fail doesn't mean one shouldn't try. And if it's not approved, that's not an indication the system is broken. Those are simply the results. There's enough stake in the hands of "minnows", "dolphins" and "orcas" to pass a proposal. That's a lot of people saying, "No thanks." They can't all be wrong.
Plus your offer appears to be a joke and now you're not even sure it's worth the effort or value you're asking. I didn't say that, you did. So if you don't even think it's a good idea, why would others?
I was one of the 1st 10 proposals when the Steem Proposal system came out before the fork. It was for gaming and ultimately it didn't get approved. Personally I felt it was short sighted and then a few years later the gaming narrative once again got huge and the ecosystem has some wins but it wasn't what it should have been if stuff would have gotten approved. There might be enough stake in the hands of minnows, dolphins, and orcas but most people are disengaged at this point. They aren't voting on proposals so someone has to go on an extreme campaign in an attempt on a maybe.
HIVE saying "no thanks" is like someone refusing a life raft who is sinking. The funds are there and not being utilized. Not only that it is debt based. Hive is set up to be able to lever out further if need be. 10% debt utilization and can go up to 30%.
The proposal is a serious as anyone wants to take it. Is DOGE serious? Is $FWOG serious? It continues to make all-time highs and if you look at my previous posts I have been talking about $FWOG.
At what point do I have enough receipts and years on this blockchain to be qualified to have a loan taken out and funds that were supposed to be for proposals to actually be allocated to market it?
It isn't easy to get my team playing MLB partner clubs.
I predicted the fall of FTX 11 Days before it happened.
Hive can't say "no thanks." It's an inanimate object.
I agree there isn't as much participation as there could be. Yet I found out about this from a PeakD notification giving the headline which doesn't sound serious or important. Several thousand probably saw it. Your post has around 300 views. The proposal last I checked had 60 votes and by reading comments I can tell some of those are just joke votes.
I was so convinced this was a joke, I wrote a joke response.
Dude I'm not trying to be hard on you but this proposal hardly looks like a life raft. It's fabulous you've found success at times. This might not be one of those times. I'm only one guy saying no. Tell Jimmy I'm sorry things didn't work out between us.
I am going to go forward with some variation of what was mentioned but it will be more effective for me to do so on ICP for multiple reasons. For starters out of all my recent videos in the last several months the ones with the most engagement have been when the ICP community shows up.
There are just more eyes on it at this point. There are more active users on something like OpenChat than there on on HIVE at this point.
It is more advanced tech with faster finality and the ability to store pictures, NFTs, videos.....etc on chain.
What HIVE has is more apps built out on it that have a longer track history and a more fully developed economy. I like the premise of the HIVE Backed Dollar and being able to earn interest on it and ultimately I do like some of the components built out on the HIVE Engine and the ability to get out to other chains without going through centralized exchanges. This is a little harder at this point with ICP but you can do it by trading into ckBTC or ckETH and getting back out to those chains and then work my way to something else. So it is possible.
I feel like at this point STEEM and Blurt aren't ideal candidates for this proposal for various reasons.
I think in summary after being here for 8 years it just wouldn't make sense for me to do all this to prove myself when the DAO Funds are being under utilized and the chain is losing ground. If I'm to go through all that and spend my own money to do the liquidity pool and all that why go the extra distance of pitching an ecosystem where the active users has dropped clear to 4,000 people and I don't have any significant control of the ecosystem? Why not just stop at the point of pitching the meme and stopping there?
Well then, dude. That clears things up. I'll take your word for it. If you don't think this is the place to do it, then that's a perfectly fair reason for me not to support this.
If that's where your heart is, that's where your heart is. It's not up to me to change your mind.
If I'm weighing out ICP vs HIVE and I have no funding or support than yeah I would do it on ICP based on what I know from the last year and also if it is the Jimmy Sandfield play it is more relevant on ICP because Jerry just left them a couple of weeks ago so it is fresher in the ICP community's mind. More liquidity and several other factors.
Why would I wait for 8 years to maybe have a tryout?
The proposal would have to get significantly more support and there is a hesitation for people to even submit proposals at this point because the lack of approval. What is the point of the Hive Fund when it doesn't even come close to getting utilized?
It's been utilized daily since its inception.
Not everything gets approved because that's life. Everyone knows that so also include there's a lack of confidence. Just because something might fail doesn't mean one shouldn't try. And if it's not approved, that's not an indication the system is broken. Those are simply the results. There's enough stake in the hands of "minnows", "dolphins" and "orcas" to pass a proposal. That's a lot of people saying, "No thanks." They can't all be wrong.
Plus your offer appears to be a joke and now you're not even sure it's worth the effort or value you're asking. I didn't say that, you did. So if you don't even think it's a good idea, why would others?
I was one of the 1st 10 proposals when the Steem Proposal system came out before the fork. It was for gaming and ultimately it didn't get approved. Personally I felt it was short sighted and then a few years later the gaming narrative once again got huge and the ecosystem has some wins but it wasn't what it should have been if stuff would have gotten approved. There might be enough stake in the hands of minnows, dolphins, and orcas but most people are disengaged at this point. They aren't voting on proposals so someone has to go on an extreme campaign in an attempt on a maybe.
HIVE saying "no thanks" is like someone refusing a life raft who is sinking. The funds are there and not being utilized. Not only that it is debt based. Hive is set up to be able to lever out further if need be. 10% debt utilization and can go up to 30%.
The proposal is a serious as anyone wants to take it. Is DOGE serious? Is $FWOG serious? It continues to make all-time highs and if you look at my previous posts I have been talking about $FWOG.
At what point do I have enough receipts and years on this blockchain to be qualified to have a loan taken out and funds that were supposed to be for proposals to actually be allocated to market it?
It isn't easy to get my team playing MLB partner clubs.
I predicted the fall of FTX 11 Days before it happened.
I was a technical mentor at the EOS Hackathons.
It's a lot of stuff stacked up over the years.
Hive can't say "no thanks." It's an inanimate object.
I agree there isn't as much participation as there could be. Yet I found out about this from a PeakD notification giving the headline which doesn't sound serious or important. Several thousand probably saw it. Your post has around 300 views. The proposal last I checked had 60 votes and by reading comments I can tell some of those are just joke votes.
I was so convinced this was a joke, I wrote a joke response.
Dude I'm not trying to be hard on you but this proposal hardly looks like a life raft. It's fabulous you've found success at times. This might not be one of those times. I'm only one guy saying no. Tell Jimmy I'm sorry things didn't work out between us.
Jimmy likes crypto