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RE: HOW TO Save HIVE (Meet Jimmy Sandfield Our New Pitchman)

in #hive4 months ago

So you are serious.

Your approach made it sound like a joke. To me, at least. I thought you were just trolling the DHF for views.

My initial response was coming straight out of the South Park. Now it's gone because yeah I started to feel like maybe people do take things too seriously here.

But when it comes to pitching an idea, I'd recommend stating your intentions in a serious manner, even if the results are meant to be comical. That's why I asked, "Could you tell I'm not being serious?"

In the same way some might take my joke response seriously, some might take your serious plan as a joke. I don't think anyone wants to hand over 24k if they're confused. I know I don't.

Also, if it doesn't get approved, factor in maybe it's not that there's something wrong with people, just maybe they don't think it's a good idea.

Majority of meme tokens are junk now. Something like 95% of them, and maybe more. But I don't want to argue about that.

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Yeah people take things too seriously here for sure. One of the things I realized is that people are even worried about giving their support via there vote because they are scared someone else will see they voted and will judge them for it. They might think..... "I can't support Brian because he was making fun of gay people and that's not politically correct these days."

The most ridiculous satirical content becomes reality in this timeline so why fight it? People are kicking in the sand upset that all these memes are getting more attention than something as well built out as HIVE. We can use this as a revenue model.

The confusion about if I'm serious or not is the exact confusion people will have about Jimmy Sandfield. They will be confused but the message will be received.

No one is handing over $24,000. They are essentially taking out a loan against the value of HIVE since HBD is a debt against HIVE. It's not a bad bet considering the potential upside and the fact that it is unclear how much of that loan would actually end up leaving the ecosystem.

Sure they might not think it is a good idea so they don't end up voting on it but I don't know what the goal is.

In a time when free speech is under attack and guys like Elon Musk and Trump are garnering a lot of eyes being wild and saying what they think online and then we have this decentralized platform but everyone is afraid to say anything controversial and are walking on eggshells afraid to get flagged.

Maybe I'm not your speed.... maybe I'm just too G

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What's stopping you from just going ahead with it?

I am going to go forward with some variation of what was mentioned but it will be more effective for me to do so on ICP for multiple reasons. For starters out of all my recent videos in the last several months the ones with the most engagement have been when the ICP community shows up.

There are just more eyes on it at this point. There are more active users on something like OpenChat than there on on HIVE at this point.

It is more advanced tech with faster finality and the ability to store pictures, NFTs, videos.....etc on chain.

What HIVE has is more apps built out on it that have a longer track history and a more fully developed economy. I like the premise of the HIVE Backed Dollar and being able to earn interest on it and ultimately I do like some of the components built out on the HIVE Engine and the ability to get out to other chains without going through centralized exchanges. This is a little harder at this point with ICP but you can do it by trading into ckBTC or ckETH and getting back out to those chains and then work my way to something else. So it is possible.

I feel like at this point STEEM and Blurt aren't ideal candidates for this proposal for various reasons.

I think in summary after being here for 8 years it just wouldn't make sense for me to do all this to prove myself when the DAO Funds are being under utilized and the chain is losing ground. If I'm to go through all that and spend my own money to do the liquidity pool and all that why go the extra distance of pitching an ecosystem where the active users has dropped clear to 4,000 people and I don't have any significant control of the ecosystem? Why not just stop at the point of pitching the meme and stopping there?

Well then, dude. That clears things up. I'll take your word for it. If you don't think this is the place to do it, then that's a perfectly fair reason for me not to support this.

If that's where your heart is, that's where your heart is. It's not up to me to change your mind.

If I'm weighing out ICP vs HIVE and I have no funding or support than yeah I would do it on ICP based on what I know from the last year and also if it is the Jimmy Sandfield play it is more relevant on ICP because Jerry just left them a couple of weeks ago so it is fresher in the ICP community's mind. More liquidity and several other factors.

Why would I wait for 8 years to maybe have a tryout?

The proposal would have to get significantly more support and there is a hesitation for people to even submit proposals at this point because the lack of approval. What is the point of the Hive Fund when it doesn't even come close to getting utilized?

It's been utilized daily since its inception.

Not everything gets approved because that's life. Everyone knows that so also include there's a lack of confidence. Just because something might fail doesn't mean one shouldn't try. And if it's not approved, that's not an indication the system is broken. Those are simply the results. There's enough stake in the hands of "minnows", "dolphins" and "orcas" to pass a proposal. That's a lot of people saying, "No thanks." They can't all be wrong.

Plus your offer appears to be a joke and now you're not even sure it's worth the effort or value you're asking. I didn't say that, you did. So if you don't even think it's a good idea, why would others?

I was one of the 1st 10 proposals when the Steem Proposal system came out before the fork. It was for gaming and ultimately it didn't get approved. Personally I felt it was short sighted and then a few years later the gaming narrative once again got huge and the ecosystem has some wins but it wasn't what it should have been if stuff would have gotten approved. There might be enough stake in the hands of minnows, dolphins, and orcas but most people are disengaged at this point. They aren't voting on proposals so someone has to go on an extreme campaign in an attempt on a maybe.

HIVE saying "no thanks" is like someone refusing a life raft who is sinking. The funds are there and not being utilized. Not only that it is debt based. Hive is set up to be able to lever out further if need be. 10% debt utilization and can go up to 30%.

The proposal is a serious as anyone wants to take it. Is DOGE serious? Is $FWOG serious? It continues to make all-time highs and if you look at my previous posts I have been talking about $FWOG.

At what point do I have enough receipts and years on this blockchain to be qualified to have a loan taken out and funds that were supposed to be for proposals to actually be allocated to market it?

It isn't easy to get my team playing MLB partner clubs.

I predicted the fall of FTX 11 Days before it happened.

I was a technical mentor at the EOS Hackathons.

It's a lot of stuff stacked up over the years.