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RE: Core development proposal year 2

in #hive4 years ago (edited)

My sentiment might not be shared by others but paying right now 17 000 USD a month for a single dev is extremely excessive. I havent heard you mention anywhere that fact. Will you return the difference between current HBD price and $1 back to the DHF? Will you calculate the average HBD price you received HBD at?
HBD might not be $1 USD but it was intended to be and the person getting payed should have the personal responsibility to be aware that by staying silent on this theyre basically taking advantage of the stakeholders by pocketing all that money. What if HBD hits $10?

Again, as I said in the past I hate these "continual development" proposals because you dont really have to set any goals for yourself. I mean even in this post youre just saying:

"Ill do stuff. Ill help out with what pops up."

I much prefer a proposal with a goal set and explained. Something like @klye is doing.
And dont tell me that doesnt work for core development. Creating a general roadmap for the coming year is something every serious crypto project does and there you can determine what you can deliver.

I will never support a proposal like this. If youre being price productive is also under question.

I will say that you are much more productive then @netuoso, though. But then again, that isnt a good benchmark since paying him was just slightly more productive than flushing money down the toilet.

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I agree with your sentiment about compartmentalizing these proposals more.

I am a bit concerned with the notion that the community is bearing the extra cost of HBD being higher. The HBD speculators are bearing that cost. I don't think it's anyone's responsibility to settle up overpriced HBD with the community, any more than it is their responsibility to send half their HBD value back to the community for post rewards. If you earn a dollar and can sell that dollar to a sucker for two dollars, more power to you. You are taking advantage of that sucker on the exchange, not anyone on here. If the proposals are more compartmentalized, I think that it would be easier for the proposer to ask for less if the HBD price is consistently worth more, and the community could pressure them to do so with their votes. I think that staring at the HBD price and then staring down your nose at people getting paid in HBD is a bit of a trap.

As far as I'm concerned, even with your own proposal, if you got paid the full amount in HBD and were able to arbitrage the HBD value to get some extra money, I say go for it. If you were to pocket it, great, a shrewd business move. If you were to give it back to the community, I'd have a higher opinion of you and want to support you more. But either way, I'm not going to moralize about it if the terms of the proposal are being met.

Id say you absolutely should feel responsibility towards the community. There is a fair wage for work done and that money is coming from the shared fund.

And those that do not feel any kind of responsibility should not be praised for it. These are stakeholder funds and your proposal is voted with the intent of hbd being 1 dollar.
Everything above that or under is not as intended.

When you pocket the difference and remain silent you are showing you do not deserve the stakeholder further trust or respect.

Now, if you want to put aside "morality"of everything and reduce it to the barebones, "well, hes getting payed because people are voting", you can do that.
If you want to pay someone double or triple their labor market wage, you are free to vote that but id rather see that value back in the dhf so we can maybe pay 3 more devs. 😉

The value of a dollar is so arbitrary to peg to, and is steadily decreasing anyhow. HBD should just float on its own, who cares? If I want to hold a stable coin correlated to USD, I hold USDC or similar. Those stable coins ACTUALLY HOLD USD 1:1. Holding HBD is farthest from my mind, and that will probably never change. It was a stupid concept to begin with, and still is. It shouldn't even exist. It does, and yet people are losing their minds because its value far exceeds that of an actual US dollar? Because there's virtue in pegging to something that loses 15% in real terms YoY. Fucking insane. You're in Croatia, WTF do you care about how a crypto coin gets denominated. It's totally subjective horseshit yet we are convinced we need to care about it. Fuck that.

Now youre going into the HBD fundamentals. Its a question of if you care about its intended purpose or not.
HBD has failed to live up to its purpose but when tech fails the social aspect of Hive kicks in to curb the failure of design.. Just like it happened so many times in the past. Take bots as an example where code failed us for years.

Now, if no one cares a single dev is taking 18k usd a month from the dhf and doesnt care about the drama that will cause, i wont either but i will maintain that they should.

I'm arguing if the proposal is too expensive in real terms, don't vote for it.

Holy hell. $17,000 development funding could run me for the better part of half a year, maybe longer if HBD prices moon (which they are going to, can't really beat free markets with the current toolset)

If not for the valiant efforts of our 'tool set', HBD would be valued at one million dollars per! untitled.gif

lol, Thanks for the giggle my sir.