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RE: What is HIVE?

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Hey man! Thanks for stopping by!

I think the price is going down because we are in the heavy mining phase of the chain and a lot of users prefer to try to time the market vs hold it.

Inflation is "high" right now but the inflation rate slowly goes down over time.

You basically mine for HIVE when you post or curate. In the early days of Bitcoin and Ethereum mining, people sold most of it and many people just lived off it. Similar thing is happening to HIVE and it is getting progressively harder to mine/live off of (which is by design because the inflation rate goes down).

The biggest difference between HIVE and BTC is BTC is hard capped but HIVE is inflationary so HIVE will naturally go down in USD terms unless people want to buy more HIVE than we are printing.

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Ok. I guess hive is really like paper money if you tell me that way.

Yea…. HIVE is inflationary. It will naturally go down unless people buy it.

Early Bitcoin adopters had no idea if Bitcoin would be worth something but they were excited about the idea Bitcoin represented.

If people are not excited about the idea of HIVE right now, the price will go down.

Now we really have to find those people that need to use hive.. but i bet they are busy watching dancing girls on tikt*k. Grown up working men.. really.. untitled.gif

We don't want people that need HIVE. We want people that want the idea of HIVE to be successful!

Just my opinion right now anyways.

Not sure what this gif is but I need to stop looking at it.... It makes me uncomfortable 🤣

I think i press the wrong gif.lol. But anyways,I hope HIVE can still land users that not only know the platform but also cares it value. :)

That is the dream!

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Indeed it will be headed lower, as activity has been in free fall for years. I love Hive & our small community, but the future is not so bright when looking at the collapse of active accounts and volume. I’ll always love Hive, but pretending we aren’t heading sub nickel next 18 months is silly. Not to mention HBD peg is the last of the artificial stable coin pegs and it needs to be unwound before it breaks next couple years, I wish more people were realists instead of just shouting moon! It’s good to see someone who’s heavily invested over 600K HP actually be realist & honest this thing can easily collapse if we keep bleeding users without adding close to what we loose per year.
!LADY !PIZZA

The accounts are going down because most people are here to make money but the rewards are going down.

HIVE is inflationary. There is no logical reason to assume it will go up unless the existing whales keep buying or we onboard users that are already rich and want to spend money.

Definitely for a portion yes all about rewards decline, but as someone who’s posted daily for 5 years here and spent 40 hours on average minimum a month on Hive I can tell you much was not about rewards but more about DHF waste & abuse, again no doubt a large % was about rewards but many it was the witnesses supporting funding projects who refuse to show data and receipts for funds spent. There is shady biz going on, it doesn’t make sense otherwise why some of the largest accounts keep supporting waste & abuse and ignore the calls to demand simple receipts for what’s being spent. !PIZZA !LADY

The accounts are going down because most people are here to make money but the rewards are going down.

The solution to that is to more widely distribute Hive tokens to new and extant users that aren't getting them.

Whales want new investors to come in and bleed fresh money into the system they capture most of. Whales compensate for the inflation by increasing their capture and facility of ROI - but this is counterproductive to the platforms need to grow it's userbase, and that's why users and activity are declining, along with the price. Less market means less interest in the token, which means price going down. Gene is right. If the oligarchy captures 90% of the stake on the platform, the value of the token will go to zero, and so will the users.

Whales capturing more tokens is the opposite of the solution. It is what is killing Hive. They need to change course or find a new investment to mine, because they've dropped Hive to it's knees and it's about to collapse. They can profit more than by continually increasing their stake of a decreasingly valuable token by increasing the decentralization of stake, to attract and retain users, which will increase the market for the token and cause the price to rise, enabling their tokens to provide them capital gains that exceed inflation.

Were they able to release their death grip on governance this could happen. First I would recommend they insulate governance and witness election from plutocracy, because someone or group with more money could just come in and take over, and bleed all the value out of the system like Valueplan is trying to do RN. Enabling actual democracy of individual users to elect witnesses would work, as would other mechanisms, like reputation to contribute to vote weight. If they can do this then - and only then - will Hive survive.

The inevitable consequence of continually centralizing stake in an oligarchy is an absence of any other cohort with any stake at all, and the oligarchy ends up like the mythical dragon sleeping on a pile of gold coins that have no monetary value, because no one else has any so they have to use something else as money. It's not like other kinds of money are scarce either.