Yes I mean I know a lot of people may be serious sometimes but it is rarely the norm.
Random question. Do communities play a role in the reward pool? Communities is something I would like to blog about at some point but I really just don't understand enough about how they work to even write a blog about it.
Do communities play a role in the reward pool? => Communities are posts just like any other at the blockchain level, so yes but not more than regular posts like this one :)
Have any steps been taken to make communities better?
Seems odd that HIVE is so social but communities are basically just interest groups.
I also tried to ban people who are spamming my new community but it isn't working.
Can we at least setup communities so people can't post in the comments if we do not want them to?
We are pretty much constantly adding features to communities (eg: https://peakd.com/dev/@howo/changes-coming-to-a-community-near-you-). What would you like to see ?
"I also tried to ban people who are spamming my new community but it isn't working." => What do you mean ? If you set their roles to muted, their posts shouldn't appear.
Can we at least setup communities so people can't post in the comments if we do not want them to? => This actually exists ! It's called community type 2 or 3,
Type 2 allows anyone to comment but only members can posts, in type 3 only members can post or comment, see: https://peakd.com/hive/@howo/communities-is-getting-an-update--what-to-expect
1 - I didn’t expect anyone to respond so quickly. (Not a dig on you, just a dig on crypto in general 😅)
Context - “Crypto” is a weird place so I’ve grown to be cautious. (I don’t think HIVE is crypto in a traditional sense but that’s a very different topic).
2 - Thank you for the quick response. Please allow me some time to review/digest your response so I can respond in a concise way. (I will take about 2 days and will get back to you).
Thank you so much for the on chain response. It means a lot to me personally.
Hope you are having a wonderful holiday!
" so quickly" he says when I reply 2 days later haha
2: Sure ! Take your time.
Happy holidays :)
Ok I see where my confusion was. People can still post, they just get muted. I think my issue is better solved by front ends rather than me advocating for people literally not to be able to post.
This screenshot below shows a visual representation of what I am seeing:
Even when muted these particular accounts create a bad UX. I mostly use PeakD so maybe I just need to talk to someone over there.
After reviewing your posts I really don't have any actionable feedback at this time. When I have actionable feedback I will be sure to leave a comment on one of your posts.
Sorry I did not meet my artificial self imposed 2 day deadline 😆. Thank you for encouraging me to take my time, something I should probably do more of lol
Yeah I see what you mean, I've surfaced the issue to the front end teams, apparently there's already a thing in place that hides muted comments on peakd it's just that it is tuned to 15 muted comments, so there's just not enough, they have updated it to lower the barrier: https://beta.peakd.com/hive-143901/@hurtlocker/the-beginning-tradfi-on-hive#@hurtlocker/re-angeluxx-t7wpil
After reviewing your posts I really don't have any actionable feedback at this time. When I have actionable feedback I will be sure to leave a comment on one of your posts. => Please do :)
accidental selfvote, don't downvote me pls dear sire
haha
It happens to the best of us 😜. If I do it on accident or it looks out of place when I selfvote please let me know (that request from me goes out to all Hivians really). But please just try not downvote me either. 😇
Seriously though, this did made me think I would like to do a blog post on self voting one day. That is a very nuanced discussion that usually spirals out of control in Discord fairly quickly.
Would be good to get that debate less in Discord and more in HIVE in my opinion.
Count me in, I do selfvote a lot and advocating it since day one. I mean, obviously not throwing full power votes on comments. I wrote about it multiple times in the past but I'll try TL;DR summary here:
my counter argument as a curator is that i'd rather spend it on other people, especially if I already do well enough on my posts from my own judgement
but generally agree, as long as you don't overdo it, it's not the worst thing in the world - some disagree with that and that's fine, it's about the intention at the end of the day. Are you doing it just to farm or just to fairly grow your stake with what you feel is deserving of your own vote.
Those disagreements mostly happen in discord so unless people want to speak up on HIVE I am not sure what to say.
No point in getting input from a bunch of unserious moon boys that cannot turn it off anymore cause they have been in the game so long and forgot how normal people treat their "friends."
Meme token trading is gross for most people. But it is really crazy and unhinged and it is the only reason I care for it if I get bored. Will be open to L2 projects again in the future but it is always good to take a step back from those type of environments and let reality sink in a little bit.
Sure, but with even one post daily (I can't even do that monthly, even if I really should ( #witness-update ) ), it's still 9 full-power votes for curation.
The thing is, which I know you're aware of, that downvotes are almost never used.
People like you who only post when you have something important to say, no one's gonna care that you selfvote. Others may force themselves to post daily mainly for the self-vote, so the intentions change around a bit where they may not care if content is good, they may not care if anyone's consuming the post, they may not care if anyone else is getting the other 9 votes if 9 other friends of theirs get them instead who are doing the same every day and trading votes with each other so it's basically 10x self-votes per day.
My point is intentions matter more than if you do or don't self-vote or then also vote-trade on top. Then if you try to break that off you're the evil person for getting in the way of a perfect farm and you'll likely get retaliated against, etc.
The debate about selfvotes will never end. I choose not to do it as my posts do okay and I think others deserve my votes more. Whatever we do can be judged by others.
I think we can do less judging and more disagreeing. It is better for the soul! 😁
Just kidding. But yes I agree. It is a weird one and there is a lot of nuance around when it is ok or not.
I resonate with point 5 A LOT.
Have I always met this standard? No way. I have made mistakes.
But I am only human and worst case I can make it up with a better post that shines brighter!
The way I understand them is that they're special accounts that people post "into". The reward pool doesn't care about them, for all it knows we could just be rewarding comments and not posts at all.
@valued-customer you inspired the community question. I don't know you but just wanted to give props where it is due!
It makes me happy that I can inspire thoughtful people to consider meaningful things. It is my hope that this benefits society, that people gain understanding of what is important and better value one another, strengthening society by strengthening the bonds of human affection.
Strengthening bonds through how we interact and support each other without "needing" anything is very important.
If we disagree passionately while still sharing some commonality, we will be stronger than those who all speak in the same voice.
Debates drive innovation and inspire new ideas that would never happen if we were all the same.
Our commonality is our passion for HIVE. And it must be what binds us together while we express our differences. Our differences provide value.
In terms of communities, I think I just need to make one and see how it goes so then I can get better at understanding the type of questions I need to ask to get people excited about communities.
I will look at all the communities that exist and try to make something "new" that may not be interesting but will be interesting to me. This way I have an incentive. I will be a part of the process. I need to get my hands dirty first before I can even dream of becoming a master. How far will I take it? I don't know. But I have a precedent of never giving and not stopping even when people tell me to. When someone tells me to stop, when someone tells me it is impossible, that is what drives me. This is where the money is. The impossible. The easy doesn't pay well. Just enough to get by. I hope to channel this when I explore communities more.
And if I come up with anything you will be that inspiration and you can come here and say see! And I will say yes, @value-customer and I crushed it. (In a good way)
Will this happen? Who knows. But it is good to dream. It is good to seek out the impossible because even if you fail, even if you are an absolute failure, if you seek out the impossible like a savage, you will never regret it. You will never look back and say I didn't try. You will look back and say, dam, it wasn't what I expected, but this thing I did is worth something and I am glad I did it.
Let's see what happens 😊
I have rarely seen such passion and wisdom expressed here, and it is impossible to express fully in words how deeply that impresses me, even gives me hope for Hive that has been languishing lately. I have a feeling you are not a dreamer, but a doer. I look forward to seeing what you dream up, because I expect you will make it happen.
Communities are regular accounts with the special feature of printing to it's own feed.
Anybody can make a post to the public feed of these accounts.
They were designed to allow exclusion of disruptors.
More users solves most of our problems.
I think new users is always good! I am not sure I think it solves most things. I honestly don't even think about what new users solve too much.
I honestly just want as many new users as possible and getting them primarily through social interaction.
Still thinking through the best ways to do this. I am guessing different people will have different methods that work best for them.