HIVE is a pretty cool place. There are a lot of people with different agendas and that is really interesting.
There are a lot of different beliefs around how different things in HIVE should work, what are the rules, and who owns what. To me the current HIVE ecosystem mostly includes:
• HIVE
• Discord
• Hive Engine
This is in no way is everything. That would be impossible to include in one blog post.
This really concise list obviously excludes other items like applications, tools, Splinterlands etc. Including those would lead to a way more nuanced discussion that I would rather not get into today. But to be clear, I love Splinterlands, and I would be lieing if I didn't say it has an important place in my heart and on HIVE (on HIVE in my opinion).
One issue I have with the current ecosystem, is the majority of the discussions on people's beliefs happen in Discord. I mean Discord is awesome don't get me wrong. I love Discord and it is pretty cool how customizable things can be.
The main issue I have with Discord, is to me it is not serious. I literally act like a ridiculous person because that is what most people are doing. If you are using Discord and making decision based on what people say there, you will walk away confused most of the time. Discord culture is heavily rooted in gaming culture which is inherently not serious.
Can there be serious Discord servers? Sure! But usually not. And if you want things to be serious you have to moderate pretty heavily. I have had a Discord server in the past, I did not moderate it at all, it was not serious, it was just friends. That was it. It was not a business or an investment so I did not need to moderate anything.
In an effort to do what I am advocating for, talking on HIVE more and Discord less, I would like to talk about the HIVE Reward Pool.
So on Discord, who owns the Reward Pool comes up almost daily now. When I came to HIVE to play Splinterlands, who owns the Reward Pool rarely came up. And back then, there was a much larger sense of community. We were all going to retire into the sunset together.
I actually had a pretty big hiatus from HIVE and Splinterlands. I mostly let my Discord community run itself. I would get my SPL brawls in and buy new cards, but that was mostly it and it was my hobby and what I did for fun.
I do remember when I started to work on ending my hiatus, and there was a long transition, some of the people on Discord I am closer to were pretty relieved lol.
I did tell them I was getting a new job, but they didn't know I would disappear. Something that is weird about this, is I still feel bad about this to this day. That I went and focused on my job and didn't have enough time to do everything and come here.
One reason I feel bad is, because I did it on purpose. I sacrificed a lot of my fun time to commit to work like a savage. I can't help but think I may have sacrificed a part of my humanity. I did lose a lot of my innocence when I left here to commit my life to work. I regret it sometimes. The cool thing, is it worked! When I came back, I had money to buy stuff. I didn't need the Reward Pool to fund anything I was doing. When I came back, I had mostly quit working. I had enough and I couldn't take it anymore. I don't mind working all the time and not getting much sleep, but I do mind not talking to the people that I met years ago that matter to me. And to these people, I TRULY AM SORRY, I made a mistake, and I ask you for forgiveness. I am sorry.
So I came back and had money for the things I always wanted to do but couldn't justify in the past. The people I wanted to get a chance to talk to, the things I wanted to buy, and the HIVE/HIVE Engine goals I wanted to achieve. These things that were previously a pipe dream were now achievable for me. It was about the journey and doing the thing. It was about the experience. Did I want to make money? Sure! But that is not why I am here. I do not care about money anymore. I did the thing. I made personal sacrifices for more money. It was a mistake. I am so so sorry. I truly am sorry.
I do feel like I missed out though, because although when I came back things were much cheaper, the environment and the people changed quite a bit. I didn't realize this for an extended period of time. I was on vacation for the last 6 months. I was drunk A LOT over the last 6 months and most people on discord I talk to know this lol. And drinking while doing all these things was a wild time man. The experience was way bigger than what I thought it would be. It continues to be life changing.
But I am sobered up now, I stopped drinking when I started this HIVE trade. This is the big leagues; it is time to get serious. Once I sobered up I started to backtrack a lot. And a lot of the things I blew off or ignored were things that fundamentally changed.
Without getting too deep. One thing that changed is people talk about the Reward Pool A LOT on Discord now. Like all the time man. And it is a bummer because it is impossible to advocate for changes to HIVE on Discord. HIVE Engine token talk makes sense on Discord. But advocating for changes to how the Reward Pool works makes no sense on Discord. Talking about the Reward Pool is cool! Teasing out ideas and theories in Discord is great! But advocating for its changes on Discord is weird.
I can give you an example of the kind of environment that happens on Discord that I, as an investor, can have nothing to do with when it comes to HIVE Governance; this is the big leagues. So in Discord with meme tokens a big part of meme token culture to those traders is making fun of the rug puller and the bag holder (Same as your homie that gets pawned when you are playing video games together). It is super weird and kind of gross because money is involved but it is just part of the process 99% of the time; it is the internet after all. You have to have fun with it, it is Discord, it is not serious. But HIVE is serious, so you usually (not always) don't want to have discussions on Discord about HIVE because you will get a lot of feedback from people who are just messing with you and are inherently unserious people. Discord is a hobby for most people. But some people don't know that and will give you real feedback, so it is confusing. And someone who is messing with you is not going to tell you they are messing with you; that would defeat the whole point of messing with you in the first place. "You no what I am saying bro?!?!? You feel me man? Wen moon bro!!!" (Discord talk). This is what happens on SOL/PUMPFun and their Discord servers 99% of the time. I don't know the exact percentage obviously but I have never seen a discord in the meme token arena with a consistent serious tone.
I am a fairly new HIVE stakeholder. I mostly focused on Splinterlands and Hive Engine tokens before. So a lot of this stuff I do not understand. Like one thing that comes up a lot is Steem. I am not even really sure what Steem is. Or more importantly why Steem would matter to someone like me? I don't own Steem, I do not know how to buy Steem or if I even can. So I really hate talking about Steem. I hate talking about and pondering about things I cannot change, especially if the discussion is positioned as if I can change these things when it is literally impossible.
Talking about Steem is super weird if you have no idea what it is. People say all this stuff I have never even heard of before. I even Google some of the things people talk about and I literally cannot find any documentation on it. So that is strange and I do not know what to make of it. What do you do when random people on the internet talk to you about things you cannot find on a major search engine like Google? It is odd.
So anyways, I do not understand what the Reward Pool is. Like is it capped? Is it unlimited? Where does the HIVE actually come from? And who owns the HIVE that is going into the reward pool? And then who owns the HIVE coming out of the reward pool? I know I missed some things so please let me know what I missed.
If anyone will take the time to talk to me and have a conversation IN GOOD FAITH I would appreciate it.
Please make sure you read my other recent posts about my previous HIVE projects before making your first comment here. Otherwise you will be out of the loop. Do what you want. You are free on HIVE. HIVE is beautiful. You don't have to read my other posts. But I would like it if you did. I put them there for a reason! 😊
Sincerely,
The Potato Dragon on HIVE
Regardless of anything else, this is a profound statement indicating serious thought about your values and people you care about. It's impressive in a world increasingly sucked into confusion about what truly matters and is valuable. It demonstrates the courage to be humble, and that is the foundation of wisdom.
Thanks!
I appreciate you calling it out. Writing that meant a lot to me. What is cool, is it now means more to me. It means more to me now because I now know it means something to someone else.
If humans do not tame the ego, we risk turning into savages that will consume the world and we risk consuming ourselves with greed. This is easy and probable if I am under the delusion I am "the best" and under the delusion "no one can beat me."
Materialism is pervasive and unrelenting. Having more is more fun. Life is better with money. It is easier to find things that make your life worth living if you have more money. Money is a resource. The more you have the more you can "do" in this life. Money IS addictive.
But money does not make you do anything. Money does not ALWAYS give you what you need. Money is not what defines us as humans. Money is not what makes me decide if I am going to be a MAN. I decided that.
When I am being true to myself, when I am at my best, in these moments, I am my number 1 fan and my number 1 critic.
Taming the ego is necessary. And it gets harder the more you have. Life is fun but I am not sure it ever gets "easy." If things get easy, I am doing something wrong.
I like to remember something Mike Tyson said about money and values. He said that Don King, his promoter, would sell his mother for a dollar. That exemplifies a horrible misunderstanding of what is valuable to people. People are far more valuable than money.
Money has no value whatsoever outside society, and the good people of society are what gives value to our lives in every way. I believe it was truly stated that the love of money is the root of all evil, because love is a personal relationship that people share. You clearly have realized you value people more than mere money, and lamented the choice to get money by sacrificing good relationships. That is great wisdom, learned the hard way, and likely to benefit you and good people you interact with the rest of your life. I consider that worthy of recognition, even celebration.
It's kind of capped yes. Every 250k blocks inflation is also dropping by 0.01%. Looks like the DHF inflation bug was fixed and went into effect recently so we're back on track with the actual inflation.
65% goes to authors and curators, 15% to HP apr, 10% to witnesses and 10% to the DHF.
Active voters direct the inflation with their vote, so inactive ones don't get curation rewards but only HP APR. Staked hive get all the inflation rewards compared to liquid hive.
I'm not 100% sure how much inflation rewards go out weekly, I think it's somewhere in the 600k ballpark.
I'm not gonna get into Hive debt, I.e. hbd xD
But yeh generally I'm a lot more joking and unserious in discords and I think it's also why people should refrain from sharing screenshot of what's said there on chain to win over arguments or paint people in a certain light, unless it's something seriously wrong with what's said. Naturally sharing private dms is also frowned upon and shitty behavior partly cause of what happens on discord should stay on discord - or any other chats for that matter. On chain you can joke around and stuff too imo, but when it's time to be serious this is a better place than chats.
Yes I mean I know a lot of people may be serious sometimes but it is rarely the norm.
Random question. Do communities play a role in the reward pool? Communities is something I would like to blog about at some point but I really just don't understand enough about how they work to even write a blog about it.
accidental selfvote, don't downvote me pls dear sire
haha
It happens to the best of us 😜. If I do it on accident or it looks out of place when I selfvote please let me know (that request from me goes out to all Hivians really). But please just try not downvote me either. 😇
Seriously though, this did made me think I would like to do a blog post on self voting one day. That is a very nuanced discussion that usually spirals out of control in Discord fairly quickly.
Would be good to get that debate less in Discord and more in HIVE in my opinion.
Count me in, I do selfvote a lot and advocating it since day one. I mean, obviously not throwing full power votes on comments. I wrote about it multiple times in the past but I'll try TL;DR summary here:
my counter argument as a curator is that i'd rather spend it on other people, especially if I already do well enough on my posts from my own judgement
but generally agree, as long as you don't overdo it, it's not the worst thing in the world - some disagree with that and that's fine, it's about the intention at the end of the day. Are you doing it just to farm or just to fairly grow your stake with what you feel is deserving of your own vote.
Those disagreements mostly happen in discord so unless people want to speak up on HIVE I am not sure what to say.
No point in getting input from a bunch of unserious moon boys that cannot turn it off anymore cause they have been in the game so long and forgot how normal people treat their "friends."
Meme token trading is gross for most people. But it is really crazy and unhinged and it is the only reason I care for it if I get bored. Will be open to L2 projects again in the future but it is always good to take a step back from those type of environments and let reality sink in a little bit.
Sure, but with even one post daily (I can't even do that monthly, even if I really should ( #witness-update ) ), it's still 9 full-power votes for curation.
The debate about selfvotes will never end. I choose not to do it as my posts do okay and I think others deserve my votes more. Whatever we do can be judged by others.
I think we can do less judging and more disagreeing. It is better for the soul! 😁
Just kidding. But yes I agree. It is a weird one and there is a lot of nuance around when it is ok or not.
I resonate with point 5 A LOT.
Have I always met this standard? No way. I have made mistakes.
But I am only human and worst case I can make it up with a better post that shines brighter!
The way I understand them is that they're special accounts that people post "into". The reward pool doesn't care about them, for all it knows we could just be rewarding comments and not posts at all.
@valued-customer you inspired the community question. I don't know you but just wanted to give props where it is due!
It makes me happy that I can inspire thoughtful people to consider meaningful things. It is my hope that this benefits society, that people gain understanding of what is important and better value one another, strengthening society by strengthening the bonds of human affection.
Strengthening bonds through how we interact and support each other without "needing" anything is very important.
If we disagree passionately while still sharing some commonality, we will be stronger than those who all speak in the same voice.
Debates drive innovation and inspire new ideas that would never happen if we were all the same.
Our commonality is our passion for HIVE. And it must be what binds us together while we express our differences. Our differences provide value.
In terms of communities, I think I just need to make one and see how it goes so then I can get better at understanding the type of questions I need to ask to get people excited about communities.
I will look at all the communities that exist and try to make something "new" that may not be interesting but will be interesting to me. This way I have an incentive. I will be a part of the process. I need to get my hands dirty first before I can even dream of becoming a master. How far will I take it? I don't know. But I have a precedent of never giving and not stopping even when people tell me to. When someone tells me to stop, when someone tells me it is impossible, that is what drives me. This is where the money is. The impossible. The easy doesn't pay well. Just enough to get by. I hope to channel this when I explore communities more.
And if I come up with anything you will be that inspiration and you can come here and say see! And I will say yes, @value-customer and I crushed it. (In a good way)
Will this happen? Who knows. But it is good to dream. It is good to seek out the impossible because even if you fail, even if you are an absolute failure, if you seek out the impossible like a savage, you will never regret it. You will never look back and say I didn't try. You will look back and say, dam, it wasn't what I expected, but this thing I did is worth something and I am glad I did it.
Let's see what happens 😊
I have rarely seen such passion and wisdom expressed here, and it is impossible to express fully in words how deeply that impresses me, even gives me hope for Hive that has been languishing lately. I have a feeling you are not a dreamer, but a doer. I look forward to seeing what you dream up, because I expect you will make it happen.
Communities are regular accounts with the special feature of printing to it's own feed.
Anybody can make a post to the public feed of these accounts.
They were designed to allow exclusion of disruptors.
More users solves most of our problems.
I think new users is always good! I am not sure I think it solves most things. I honestly don't even think about what new users solve too much.
I honestly just want as many new users as possible and getting them primarily through social interaction.
Still thinking through the best ways to do this. I am guessing different people will have different methods that work best for them.
Do communities play a role in the reward pool? => Communities are posts just like any other at the blockchain level, so yes but not more than regular posts like this one :)
Let’s where I start.
Indeed Hive is discussed on Hive and Discord. But I to think that it can be compared with an office floor. The discussion on Hive are the open chats, around desks, in meeting rooms, etc… Those are the discussions which everybody can follow. Then we have the discord discussions which are more private, at least some people think that. This can be compared with the chats at the coffee machine or during a lunch walk. Here the company is discussed, gossip is spread, colleagues are being peer reviewed without that they do know it.
So I can relate with people using a different tone in the conversation based on the platform where the conversation is being held.
For me, more and quiet and relax person, I will say the same in both, I will have the same tone. I will have the same opinion.
Sorry, I didn’t understand the sidestep to Steem in your post.
If we talk about the whales. People will be gentle to them on Hive but could be backstabbing them on Discord. Most of us don’t want them as an enemy but on Discord mmh, people feel more secure.
I do think that we should respect the whales more. Not kissing their ass to get an upvote. But be fair and yourself. The whales are whales for a reason. Or they did invest, or they were the front runners of the chain. They did the hard work, promoting Hive, funding it with content, creating dapps … Most of us did jump on the train, while bumpy sometimes and complaining but never giving them the rewards they deserve. Just trying to get their attention for a small part of the pot of gold.
So, in my opinion the reward pool is from the Hive community. Who actually owns it, no f**** idea. Who is responsible for it. The whales and witnesses. I don’t agree with voting on the witnesses with the best node. I di think that we should on witnesses who do have the best ideas for Hive.
And now some breakfast!
Cheers,
Peter
Thanks man! Enjoy breakfast! I’d like time to digest everything you said and will have a better comment a bit later!
Cheers to you too!
I personally don’t understand why discord has been the place for all these discussions. It’s one of the worst apps for privacy and security.
I agree!
Yea based on my post I am guessing you know my position on people who want to be serious being surrounded by unserious people. It is confusing and can seem cruel but really it is "just the internet" and people are going to say crazy stuff on Discord. I think people really need that muscle if they want to try to make money on L2 tokens that are not asset based and require a high level of trust. A lot of people get consumed by greed and some people never come back from it.
But this behavior is very common in other zero sum transaction environments.
Zero sum meaning 1 winner and 1 loser (a good example is an american call option or just gambling at a casino).
I prefer mutually beneficial transactions because they make me feel better as a person. (a good example is buying HIVE and seeing where I can do my best to add value with my stake in a way that doesn't just benefit me but benefits other people that have skin in the game through HIVE stake. L2 tokens do not count towards HIVE stake, which I am guessing you know but not everyone is privy too).
I say this because I have seen many instances where people dump their entire HIVE stake and mess up their KE for L2 tokens and stop getting curated and they don't know why. They no longer are a HIVE stakeholder like they were. They have shown they want to exit the ecosystem. If you love HIVE and are bullish for the future, seeing people dump just sucks and it is hard to curate like a robot with no emotion. Well really it is impossible to curate without any emotion.
Good manual curation should be highly variable which helps decentralize curation in my opinion. Manual curation with multiple curators reduces risk to a curation project when it comes to curating for max rewards and quality at the same time. The average person does not do it well and many people just default to vote trading cause that is easier for them. Or voting on people based on if they hold that person's L2 tokens.
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I didn't understand many of the terms. Since I arrived, no one has mentioned a rewards fund or how payments work. Everyone talks about creating content, and I thought that was all. According to the internet, Discord is related to gaming; it's like its niche. So I understand it gets strange when someone wants to use a tool with a specific purpose for other things. It's great that you can now buy what you want; that seems fantastic.
You should really read the white paper. Always look at how things work before investing time & effort into something.
!PIZZA
I don't feel like "read the white paper" is an interesting idea on HIVE.
I want to know what people think and why. Not what is on a piece of paper. A paper does not think but people do. People are interesting but mere text in isolation is not powerful. People must advocate for the text. And me simply reading it without guidance does not do any meaningful text the justice it deserves. If I just read it, and we do not talk about it and understand where we agree and disagree, what I read on the internet is pointless.
Thanks for stopping by! I need to stop by and check out some tunes soon!
It’s not just interesting, it’s important to basic understanding of the chain. It’s a foolish move to skip the most basic breakdown and information of the chain.
I don’t understand how these two things can’t co exist. It takes 15 minutes to look over. It’s not about not doing something else. It’s just getting a basic understanding before or while diving in.
With all respect, suggesting it’s not important to do so before investing time & value into chain or chain assets is not good advice.
I think you misinterpreted what I said. I am not trying to be foolish. I will try to articulate my points better in the future so it does not come off that way.
I think you misunderstood me too. Sorry about that! No I didn’t mean it like I was calling u foolish friend, I just meant in general it’s probably kinda so in general to not spend a little time with white paper before investing time & value into a chain. !PIZZA !LADY !ALIVE
Appreciate u bud! Cheers!
The amount of things and people here already provides a lot of legitimacy.
I am not saying we shouldn't read the white paper. I am just saying that, that feedback is not valuable for this discussion. I can read a white paper without it being suggested.
If you are new, it can be confusing!
It is like drinking from a fire house for as long as you want to.
But if you believe in yourself, you can do something interesting here.
Will everyone like it? No. This is the internet. If you do anything worth doing, people will criticize you and you will never make everyone happy.
Try not to take anything too personally here. Good or bad. But still try to have a good time. Do what you love and remember there are other people we must interreact with here. And maybe it will be even more people one day. Who knows! This is HIVE.
Yes, it is confusing, but that's because I don't yet know many of the terms they use, but I'm trying to understand, little by little. I just hope there isn't the same level of hate as on other networks, which is very strong when people don't like something.
Anyone can come here. Anyone who processes things in a negative way can come here. And maybe they should. A hateful user should not change your experience.
If there is a topic you don't like because it gets to heated, don't worry about it. Lot's to do here, don't let others drag you down. Not on HIVE or IRL in my opinion. But you do you and I will do me! No pressure.
I don't know if the pdf still downloads, but you can read the steem white paper here.
This was the original deal.
Here is hive's.
IF you haven't read those, I can see why you might feel at a loss as to what is going on in the hive.
Some of us have coming onto 10 years of history here.
Most of us still have blank spots as to exactly how the math works.
You seem to always know where to go for the details! 😀
It is pretty interesting it has been that long. I guess my next question is, so we have the original intent of Steem, the HIVE we have today, and whatever HIVE will be one day.
I am more focused on what HIVE will be versus what Steem was or what HIVE is currently.
What do you want HIVE to be in the future?
Well, world domination is looking a little unlikely at this point.
That was a real possibility in '16 until 'they' started wrecking our reputation on purpose.
2 years of linear rewards to facilitate bid bots and pay to play while not developing anything was an effective hobble for the platform.
We must rebuild our reputation from the kneecappening in '17.
'They' did a number on our rep and it still hinders our movement in the market.
IF we can overcome that, the sky is the limit, once again.
"We must rebuild our reputation from the kneecappening in '17"
Can you expand on this some if you don't mind?
Are there like specific things we can do in terms of actions. Not saying we should do anything, just trying to get a better sense of what you would like to see.
Thanks!
In 2017, the powers that were decided that linear rewards were better than the n2.
The n2 was blown out by the ninjamine.
Rather than a level playing field, some folks had exponentially more, and when that combined with an exponential curation reward curve the results were sub-optimal.
(Upvote scalping bots also played a large role.)
Along with the linear rewards came the bidbots.
I don't guess I need to explain pay to play.
It's a crime most places.
These were intentional decisions by math experts.
To go along with this, the dev team took a two year walkabout.
When they came back and didn't find an adoring public, they sold us to the chinese.
The combination of these things I call 'the kneecappening'.
We still live with the ripples it created.
I'd like to see a cap on voting from the pool, say 1000mv.
The whale experiment proved that less whale voting created a more minnow friendly environment.
With the return of the n2, we can gamify curation like the original design intended.
Making this game worth playing, again.
Or, we can keep doing what we have been doing, but expecting a different result because this time is different.
I appreciate your perspective and you taking the time to clearly articulate your position. It does seem like over long period of time HIVE does change in some ways. It doesn't always stay consistent. And it seems like sometimes results are negative and sometimes positive.
I think I understanding better now why Steem is still so important to people to this day. Because Steem was a part of the change. Steem is a part of HIVE in some capacity. The history does matter. Maybe Steem will always be important to HIVE, and maybe that is ok and I need to get on board with that.
I wonder if there is anything whales can do now to adjust voting habits personally that will help minnows. Like should they make an effort to curate "under rewarded" authors? Is there a way for us to define an "under rewarded" author or even the kind of content that should be eligible for rewards? (I am referring to your burn posts by the way). Not trying to rile you up, but you may remember my position on those. I think rewards for those are fine. The engagement for the posts exists and there is a purpose behind the posts. I don't have to like any of them the type of content to come up with reasons why it could arguably be curated. I also know people will disagree with me on this. And that is ok. 🙂
At this point, imo, until more of the ninjamine moves into hands that haven't brought us the last almost 10 years, what we have is what we get.
Everybody wants to bitch, but nobody wants to step up.
Power is on sale, tell your friends, eh?
Were a bunch of people to come in and put large buy orders at .05, I bet the sellers wouldn't be able to resist and that is about as good as the power to price ratio can be expected to get.
I really don't think we need to go to a penny, but if so, then c'est la vie.
Something needs to give.
Basically, every day, new tokens are generated by the algorithm running in the background for our network. Every upvote and downvote influences how that daily token allotment will be disbursed. No one "owns" the tokens until after a week when the final payout is calculated and assigned for posts & comments.
Did that help at all?
i don't know what is going on with the reward system but isn't that cute? the potato and the dragon dating in the pond of golden urine.. mightyy eagle..
It is supposed to be a golden reward pool 🤣
Oww.. thank you for correcting me there mr. Potato dragon sir. This is just pleb's mentality. I can't relate with too many things specially with those technical stuff with hive. But this thread is an eye opener to a guy like me. Good information flows like river here!
"FOMO vs I dislike discord a lot" kind of fight here. Latter wins so far, mostly because time is the most precious resource out there and I can't (don't want) to change my priorities on how to allocate it.
Reweard pool is our common good, usually we do a really bad job on allocating it either by making wrong decisions on allocating reward shares or by making the wrong decision to not participate at all.
Yea discord is usually a waste of time for most people. It is very customizable and a cheap "tool" but even having a server where you want to keep it clean and safe is a lot of work because social engineering scams are so pervasive these days.
Even people that keep their servers clean still get hit by social engineering scams. And the unfortunate thing about these type of scams is not all people even realize it happened or is happening.
Sorry not to get dark.
I guess the short answer is, I am not trying to create FOMO by any means 😅
Sorry for the repeat comment but I caught something I am not sure on.
When you say "common good," I am not sure what you mean. Are you thinking like a "public good?"
A lot of people already know what a public good is but I wanted to throw a definition down below just to help add context to what I am asking.
I grabbed this definition from investopedia.com from their terms section, which I think is usually pretty good for these kinds of topics - "public good is a commodity or service that every member of a society can use without reducing its availability to all others. Typically, a public good is provided by a government and funded through taxes."
oh, lost in translation maybe, I guess something more like stake weighted bonum commune
@gerber if you do not mind, I would enjoy hearing your feedback on this topic as well. I really would appreciate it and apologies for the tag.
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STOPFrom what I understand, the rewards fund is what compensates all participants in the network: authors, curators, witnesses, proposals, etc.
It pays the network's stakeholders with inflation. Modifying that rewards fund, as I see it, would modify the income of the various parts of the system.
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Please vote for pizza.witness!
I think the seriousness of the Discord chat really depends on the community and group of people. For the most part, I hang out in the Discord servers where there's an ebb and flow between seriousness and comedic relief. People are free to speak their minds and usually do, and if it's something that needs to be taken private, what's said in DMs stays there. Others' experiences may vary, but I do agree that the serious discussions on Hive should be posted to the blockchain rather than only discussed in Discord.
!BBH
!PIMP
!ALIVE
!PIZZA
What I miss on Hive is a universal private messaging tool. We're a social network in a way, and that's a quintessential feature of such platforms. I have onboarded a few dozen people (about one dozen is still active years later, which is quite something), and I am quite sure I could have retained a few more if only I were able to ping them directly without using a third-party tool.
Apart from that, I believe we should become more fragmented and decentralized. Supportive of minor languages and all topics. By cherishing and nurturing communities, I guess. Now, people are forced to use machine translators to publish in English in order to be eligible for major upvotes, which is kinda sad. No other social media requires you to use a language you don't really speak.
Just my two cents proving your second paragraph completely right :)
got late in here since i was a bit inactive in the blockchain... What is your conclusion after all this debate in here?? hehe
I know almost nothing about Steem, but I'll be here to discuss ideas on any other topic👍😀
!PIZZA
If you support my independent efforts to fight abuse on HIVE, please carefully read and carefully consider providing support for Marky’s Hive Analytics proposal. I use it for abuse fighting, it keeps my DV mana more consistent. I do not coordinate with Marky on these things either. We are not friends.
I do not like paying for things through the DHF or the reward pool with HIVE. I want to treat each HIVE like it is precious. However, I must operate within the current culture and a lot of things are funded that I support while wishing they were different in some capacity. But I don’t have a solution so I am not complaining.
I support Hive Watcher’s proposal and would like to support more abuse proposals on HIVE.
Marky’s proposal is about the same cost as HW proposal and is an app for all users and it has nothing to do with abuse. (It is not even an abuse app, it is just so good I can use it for that and it saves me time which is valuable to me).
I'm glad you posted this. I honestly forget about the proposals and don't vote. I made sure to support Marky's project.
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!PIZZA
!ALIVE
No problem! Most people forget I think.
Which to be fair, there really is no reason to look at the proposal page like 90% of the time. It looks cool! But doesn’t change very often! 😅
Very true, although PeakD does a better job of bringing visibility to it than others.
I love peakd! I support their proposal as well!
Same here 😁
Also just big props to you man. You put yourself out there and I appreciate that about you.
I can't put my finger on it, but I just think you are a cool dude man. And I do appreciate your support for Marky's proposal.
Cheers man!
Thanks!
Maybe it's because I try to keep Hive as my mental retreat from the stress off life, and keep it fun and enjoyable? I try not to be overly serious here when it's not necessary.