The list of users in this post should just be ignored by anyone replying. We all know from the first glance it's wrong.
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Thank you for your feedback and the insightful comments provided @guiltyparties
I edited out the list of users, since it was not central to the points anyway and just seemed to distract some readers.
Basically, our aim is to hear the arguments of both sides on this contested issue, in order to come up with our own synthesis of what is going on.