I hoped to get more quality comments after adding a reward of 5 percent. Still I think that quality comment number did increase a little bit. So that is nice.
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I hoped to get more quality comments after adding a reward of 5 percent. Still I think that quality comment number did increase a little bit. So that is nice.
Quality comments?
Rather there should be natural comments with real, genuine interest in the content/author on the Hive blockchain in general.
Like on any other properly working social network.
For example even in the smallest Facebook groups (for example with around 100 members).
The problem about the Hive blockchain is that most of the users are not focusing on (and do not really care about) the content, but about the monetary aspect (rewards), and this is how they ruin an otherwise technically revolutionary platform.
Why can't it be both?
If creators could easily reward those genuine comments on facebook, youtube, reddit, etc, wouldn't they?
It's up to the authors to decide what they think is genuine and what isn't, if they want to reward comments that are there just to get part of their post rewards then they can, others can judge the author and user's comment based on that. If they don't want to they can ignore them or just leave a reply and not vote.
Beats having 50 different command bot comments with nothing of value being inserted in the comment nor value being transferred from the token command.
You could also think that a big reason many don't care to comment but focus on posting is that close to no rewards go out to comments compared to posts, @commentrewarder attempts to change that to turn creators into consumers as well as we severely lack it. On top of giving those users who can't reward comments with votes a way to do so with sharing their author rewards as tips.
Why can't it be both?
Technically it would be possible.
But practically currently it is not.
Why not?
You can find the answer in the behavior of the people.
Most people on the Hive blockchain currently focus on the rewards so much that they forget (do not even care) about the content, often both as a content creator, and as a content consumer too (the latter is currently a very very small percentage).
And many so called curators vote automatically to maximize their curation rewards, and they often do not even see the content they curate.
And most people focus on posting.
The ratio is somewhere around 90% (or even more) content creators, and 10% (or even less) content consumers.
Many posts are overlooked/ignored because of this. And thousands of people left this platform in the previous years because of this.
Currently most of the Hive users are literally ruining an otherwise technically revolutionary platform with their behavior.
Technically this platform is much better than other social network, but most people are not grown up to it (yet?).
To have both of the above mentioned things at the same time, most people have to change their approach to this platform, and have real, actual interest in the content.
Both as a content creator, and as a content consumer too. And much more content consumers are needed.
Voting automatically doesn't necessarily increase your rewards compared to manual voting. I agree it'd be amazing if we could give proven manual curators more rewards but for now it is what it is. Downvotes could help reduce rewards if votes have landed on content "blindly" but there's a big stigma regarding downvotes, still.
The rest of the comment is kind of made up numbers and reasoning but it's true that we lack consumers and a big reason to that could be that they're not rewarded for their time in the way creators are and since anyone can be a creator here they opt to focus on that rather than consuming and not everyone has time to do both.
We just need more users to generate more consumers, you can't compare hive to other platforms as the only others we compare to are in the millions if not billions of users. Let's compare it to Steem or Blurt instead and you'll be able to see that engagement is a lot better here already and I hope commentrewarder will have a bigger impact on that.
You can compare the Hive blockchain even to the smallest Facebook groups, for example Facebook groups with a few hundred users. And currently the latter is winning in terms of real, actual interaction.
Of course the Hive blockchain engagement is better than the Steem blockchain engagement or the Blurt blockchain engagement.
The Hive blockchain is created from the Steem blockchain by a hardfork, and most of the Steem blockchain users moved to the Hive blockchain after Justin Sun took over the Steem blockchain.
And the Blurt blockchain is just a bad copy of the Hive blockchain, literally with the same design, and with the same domain (.blog).
Why is that of course? I mean I know the reason but what makes you say that the legacy chain with much better SEO is obvious to have worse engagement than Hive?
I generally don't understand why you'd compare engagement levels on web2 platforms with Hive when you could compare it to literal copies of it instead.
Either way, your initial comment was about commentrewarder incentivizing fakeness or something so this is kind of spurring out of context. A quick look at your post history tells me you could use some engagement on your posts, maybe some comments just to take a little bit of rewards from your post would be better than 0? Dunno, guess that's where we're at. Most people here would make 0 income on web2 but I'm sure many of them would get more engagement than here just cause there's a lot more users there.
Why? They already have facebook accounts and they specifically joined that group based on their interests and they're not getting rewarded to create similar posts as that facebook group so commenting and liking is all they can do really.
Simply because people there (in the Facebook groups) actually care about the content, and their interactions are natural.
They show how a properly working social network works.
And this is why this should be the same in the so called Hive communities too to have a properly working social network.
So the Hive users should do the same.
They should actually care about the content, and have natural interactions. And not forced.
The rewards alone are not bad.
The Hive blockchain users make it bad (both to themselves and to the whole Hive blockchain) by focusing too much on it, and often literally ignoring (not caring about) the content, even as a so called content creator.
Nothing is stopping you or anyone else from doing that.
They do, just not financially. The reason that both aren't potential is that curation rewards produce profiteering, where the curators only or primary interest in voting content is to receive maximum curation rewards. I'll not go into gaming curation rewards, but I am sure you are well acquainted with how to do so.
That is exactly what I would call quality comments.
I strongly agree, and have long suggested that curation rewards are both unnecessary and counterproductive to actual curative promotion of content quality. The financial interest is the only, or the primary interest many voters have in their vote, and this causes them to dispense their votes so as to maximize their curation rewards, rather than to reward what they consider to be the best content.
Hopefully people will take more time to interact once they realize it's something we value. It's been needed for a long time
I agree. it is great addition to Hive ecosystem.