An interesting read over-all, I enjoyed the exchange between you and @kyle, I myself am just a user, not a developer, not an investor, not even really a crypto enthusiast. I did have a few question:
history of critical consensus failure like Hive
you mentioned critical consensus failure of hive, is this something I need to be concerned with and what failures? Hive had the initial creation Hard Fork from Steem, this did come with a few glitches, but I do not recall any significant failures. Yes HF24 has and did have some issue and that short sidechain split but the glitches are being worked on and the sidefork was taken care of pretty quickly from what I read.
why on earth would anyone use Hive which is basically just a far worse and more insecure EOS?
What makes Hive insecure, I use hive in a social manner, I do recall on steem a lot of people accidently giving out their keys, I have seen a few recent post on Hive about phishing and keys being given out to people where they should have known better. Is it the keys part that is insecure or are there ways and means for people to hack and obtain my keys with out me ever giving them out?
People and developers don't use Hive because it's bad
When you say people don't use Hive what do you mean? I am just a user, I actually like and enjoy the social side of Hive, there is a fairly large group, (at a guess about 4500), that use Hive in a social type manner. It is the social side that help the developers test and try out their application, a built in beta test group.
I think that once Hive is fully separated out from Steem, and starts to go off in a different direction that things will improve, but it will take time. First HF done, next one to finish the foundation layer. If Hive is to succeed we need to avoid pitfalls and mistakes that were made by steem/steemit. The chasing of the reward pool, the constant changing of the economic layer needs to come to a stop for Hive, it needs to have time to develop, time for investor to see and understand that the economics of Hive are not going to be changed or altered with every hard fork.
Like I said I did enjoy the post, those were just three of the things I really did not understand, but for an alternative to all the centralized social media outlets, I must say I do enjoy the social aspects of Hive.
When facebook first came out I tried it-didn't like it
When Reddit first came out I tried it-didn't like it
Twitter the same.
Google hangouts-the same.
With Steem I liked it, then things went wonky, Hive I still like it, if people can avoid the mistakes of Steem, I will still be around in another year or two.
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I'm not going to go through the technical problems again, I have talked enough about how Hive's tech is very poor, a dinosaur in 2020.
At first I thought you were being sarcastic. 4,500 is basically negligible in a world of 3,000,000,000 social media users. It's a complete failure. "Large group" would be 4.5 million, not 4.5 thousand.
If you like Hive, good for you, but you must accept that you are in a tiny, tiny minority. The platform won't matter at all until at least 4.5 million people use it. 4,500 is laughable. Reddit has 450 million, that's literally 100,000x Hive.
I do hope Hive goes in a new direction, but after 7 months (an eternity in crypto), the progress has been nowhere near enough for me.
I realize it is a small start and we have not reached a tipping point on Hive for growth yet. Reddit/twitter/facebook did not start out overnight with 4.5 million user, it has taken them years to get where they are.
I do understand and see that crypto people see it as nothing more than a get rich quick scheme, that is why so many end up giving their keys and passwords away for phishing expeditions. So 7 months is an eternity for them, the longer it takes the get rich scheme to work the more chance of it being detected. One of the reason every day normal people have a hard time accepting crypto as an investment or a currency.
There are not that many places that developers can go and get real world users to test and play with and suggest product changes enhancement for little to no cost, especially if that developer is new or unknown.
I do hope Hive can break fully away from and leave the memory of steem in the past, that people in one year from now will be singing a different story, but we just have to wait and see. It could all fall apart, but I'll wait, play, and watch what happens.
i understand the tired of explaining thing, still it was all a good read, people should keep their eyes open for opportunity.