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RE: Discussion: Why are new users not sticking around?

in #hive5 years ago

I think a lot of it could be like the new user I just found, and a few I have seen in the past. If you can not interact with the product then you do not use the product. It is like buying a brand new TV and the only way you can use it is to have a power outlet.

No HP, no ability to react or respond to the people that posted to their introduction post. Prior to my delegating 25HP her RC were likely pretty low, now she can at least respond to a few of the comments.

On boarding with out providing a temporary power outlet, is not going to help. I have seen all the arguments, let them spend 20 dollars if they want to use Hive. It was the same over on steem. If they want to play in our sandbox make them pay. That attitude obviously has not worked. Time for people to wake up to that fact.

I delegated to:

  • @quibquab they were brand new in discord asked about HP, I delegated 25 HP, and left a message about doing so, no post no replies, I left the delegation there for almost a month.
  • @the.muse same story as above, they did make a couple of comments, but after those they left, I don't know if it the comments were before or after my delegation to them. They seemed interested, were in discord asking about HP and I left a message and got no reply from either of them, people it seems still want at least a little bit of instant feed back.
  • @filipemarch still has a delegation from me, last interactions were about 2 weeks ago, they are currently powering down, they may be one source to ask why hanging up the Hive Hat.
  • @schmidi still receiving a small delegation from me still active. I saw their intro post commented, delegated to them. They may be one to ask why still active, what kept them active and learning.
  • @turner88 like above found and delegated to on intro post/day, still currently active.
  • @laurenluftballon the newest user, first post a couple hours ago. 25 HP delegated, as they had 0 HP just like all the above when they started out. One to follow and watch and see if they stay or give up the ghost.

Two of the individuals I delegated to I was unable to verify if they were even aware of the delegation and their ability to now interact, and they never did do any significant interactions on hive.

One individual who it seems just did not find what they were looking for.

Two still current and active. Did the starting HP help them decide to stay? Would they still be here with out it? Starting HP and ability to interact on Hive is a very much over looked part in my opinion.

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Thank you...and no, not giving up the ghost ;)

It does take time to get use to Hive, and all the little things, at least you have a good group of mentors/friends to help each other out. @mammasitta is a great person, she helped me a lot when I first joined steem.

Hello, bashadow. I noted you mentioned me.
The point is, it is hard to get visibility here. So I am still not convinced if it is worth to stick on this platform, as I can see a lot of potential on YouTube, for example.
I thought on creating a new community specific for animations, but I realized it costs 3 HIVE. So I started to POWER DOWN, because I wasn't sure how everything worked on wallet, so I was clicking here and there, and I realized that HIVE POWER couldn't be used to create new communities. So I decided to POWER DOWN and wait some weeks to get back here.

One of the big issues as I see it. There really is nowhere to send new people to help them understand the system, so much is hit and miss and try this, just to see what works.

Now it seems I have quite 10 HIVE on wallet. So I think I can start creating communities on Hive. But I am not sure if it really is worth the struggle or if I should leave the platform. Have you experience on creating new communities? How hard is to get people on board on new communities? I wouldn't like to waste money if it is quite impossible to get new users on new communities. I don't know how people could find a new community created by me, for example.

It is as difficult getting new people in a community and building a community as it is in getting established as an individual on Hive. Right now there are a lot of communities on Hive, most have a hard time getting established.

An example is I follow 5 Photography Communities. They have from 0 active users with 140 subscribers, (the low side), to 291 active users with 1049 subscribers. Pretty small numbers when you see the amount of photography related post. The large catch all community of GEMS has 1656 active users, and almost 6000 followers.

Remember though Hive Block Chain has only been active for about four months, it is still in its settling in phase. As for getting your community seen, peakd has worked on getting a post promotion system working where you pay to have your post/Advertisement moved higher on the explore tags and feeds list.

I still see a lot of value on Hive. I just needed one friend to get in talk once in a while to get me some advice and make me confident on trying things here.

That will come with time. There are actually a lot of people that are willing to try and help out, both small accounts to medium and large accounts. Also there are so many ways and means of using Hive, that very few people can cover all aspects of it. I know a bit about the PeakD front end, however I could give no advice at all on how to use busy.org, or hive.blog, or eCency, or any of the other front ends.

but the real truth is, last month some people very important to me died due to coronavirus, so I forgot about Hive for some time... but I'm already thinking on some posts

Sorry to hear about the loss. Sometimes having something to do to take our mind off of tragedy is helpful.