Yes, you read that right.
Anybody that can't give a 20 hive vote, or votes on a post that doesn't reach ~6hbd in payout, is giving their vote's value to the trending page, and the curators that put content there.
That is going to be most of you reading this.
This rule was put in place, ostensibly, to combat spam abuse.
IF that was the reason, then there is no reason not to remove it, now.
Abuse has been mostly eradicted, as you can see from the drop in downvotes from the abuse fighting communities.
That doesn't mean that abuse has stopped, and that you don't need to join in the downvoting, in fact, it means you need to contribute to the conversations.
You can do that here:
hivewatchers discord: https://discord.gg/QqyrCCf
Hive discord: https://discord.gg/SUwJ2s2
Hive-DR: https://discord.gg/yfd95Sy
These are public rooms, feel free to make yourself at home.
I'd like to see the numbers crunched on this comparing how much abuse was mitigated at what cost to the little people here.
But, I don't expect anybody that wants to continue getting rewards here to jump up and supply me with those numbers, but if you would like to do that, dm me in beechat or on discord and I will be more than happy to put out the numbers publicly, especially if I am wrong about my math.
Every vote that you get or give is reduced exponentially more the farther the value from 6hbd, and the facts of the math are that that value goes to the trending page.
Not 100%, but the farther you are down the trending list, the less of it you will get.
I listened to the dev meeting the other day, and while they tried to stay away from purely political topics, it was mentioned that helping the rich people here make more hive was not a top priority.
Let's see if tptb on hive meant that, or if they will persist in robbing the little fish of one of their main reasons to be here.
Place your bets ladies and germs, will they keep taking this from us because they can, or will our pushback be large enough to see some change?
This is a bit not true, while you're right that those who vote on say, comments or posts that don't make it to (I think it's 16 hive rewards (both hbd+hp), give it up and it goes back to the pool, you saying it's going to curators who put stuff on trending isn't exactly true. The curation curve right now is also punishing those who vote bigger votes, if you've checked some front-runners and maximizes, you'll notice that most will vote with very tiny percentages on popular posts they know will get past the threshold, but then you have the bigger accounts who'll try to vote first on posts with very low rewards if they themselves (or with the accounts in their possession) can get the post to just pas the threshold. Voting it more than that might actually cost them ROI. This is something that's been bothering me lately, cause when I see posts that are in great length, quality and effort and deserve to be trending, I'll know that if I cast it a say 100 hive vote, most of that 84 hive will not be giving me great returns than say if I had cast 5x 20 hive votes instead. Another thing to notice is that these maximizers will skip posts that have even 0.50$+ votes on them already because that means they'll have to share the returns of that post with those smaller accounts that voted first and not get the best returns. As someone who doesn't usually care about the returns that much but wants to see great content on trending, it's really annoying when you have to still vote on great posts even though you know that some abuse front-runners have autovoted on it first and your bigger votes will not only cost you a lot in ROI but also reward the maximizers more, just so the authors keep creating great content and trending will continue to be diverse and of quality. That was kind of my only pet peeve with your initial comment I quoted so figured I'd let you know about this in case you weren't aware of it and if you appreciate curation projects that aren't all about ROI I'd love it if you gave our witness account - @ocd-witness a vote. :)
I have nothing against your content. I'm not gonna weigh in on rewards and who's losing where because without articles addressing these things, I'm unaware.
For what it's worth, @antisocialist, I don't understand the downvotes you're receiving lately for pasting excerpts. Regardless if consumers are interested in reading the literature or not, I've seen a lot of authors receive a lot more value with a lot less effort.
I've been on the receiving of downvotes, mute buttons, all that. But the longer I stick around and the more I don't mask my identity, the more they appreciate it. Ima keep doing me. I guess I'm tryin to say keep doing you.
There's plenty of room on this platform for everyone.
We are staging a membership drive in these three discords.
HiveDownvoteRewards: https://discord.gg/yfd95Sy hivewatchers: https://discord.gg/QqyrCCf Hive General: https://discord.gg/SUwJ2s2
I hope you join us in determining what 'community' consensus is.
Shake the branches; Let's see what falls out.
It tosses the molotov on the table and watches which way they scurry.
I've been gone for a while, and I'm not quite sure I understand what you're getting at.
Are you saying that the first 20 hive from each vote is somehow not going to the author of the post voted on?
No, continued in the other comment.