It happens to the best of us 😜. If I do it on accident or it looks out of place when I selfvote please let me know (that request from me goes out to all Hivians really). But please just try not downvote me either. 😇
Seriously though, this did made me think I would like to do a blog post on self voting one day. That is a very nuanced discussion that usually spirals out of control in Discord fairly quickly.
Would be good to get that debate less in Discord and more in HIVE in my opinion.
Count me in, I do selfvote a lot and advocating it since day one. I mean, obviously not throwing full power votes on comments. I wrote about it multiple times in the past but I'll try TL;DR summary here:
self voting was default at the beginning, it was turned off because was suboptimal as there were anti-bot mechanisms so letting author selfvote at their own selected time was better
HP should matter, authors just like curators should want to have HP, why would they want to have HP if they couldn't selfvote?
If community thinks that selfvoted post of a given author is overrewarded then that's exactly what we have downvotes for
Making selfvotes automatic at consensus level would be pretty amazing because then it will deplete shitposters from their voting power
If you think your post doesn't deserve a vote even form yourself than maybe you should reconsider writing it to stay forever on the blockchain? ;-)
my counter argument as a curator is that i'd rather spend it on other people, especially if I already do well enough on my posts from my own judgement
but generally agree, as long as you don't overdo it, it's not the worst thing in the world - some disagree with that and that's fine, it's about the intention at the end of the day. Are you doing it just to farm or just to fairly grow your stake with what you feel is deserving of your own vote.
Those disagreements mostly happen in discord so unless people want to speak up on HIVE I am not sure what to say.
No point in getting input from a bunch of unserious moon boys that cannot turn it off anymore cause they have been in the game so long and forgot how normal people treat their "friends."
Meme token trading is gross for most people. But it is really crazy and unhinged and it is the only reason I care for it if I get bored. Will be open to L2 projects again in the future but it is always good to take a step back from those type of environments and let reality sink in a little bit.
Sure, but with even one post daily (I can't even do that monthly, even if I really should ( #witness-update ) ), it's still 9 full-power votes for curation.
The thing is, which I know you're aware of, that downvotes are almost never used.
People like you who only post when you have something important to say, no one's gonna care that you selfvote. Others may force themselves to post daily mainly for the self-vote, so the intentions change around a bit where they may not care if content is good, they may not care if anyone's consuming the post, they may not care if anyone else is getting the other 9 votes if 9 other friends of theirs get them instead who are doing the same every day and trading votes with each other so it's basically 10x self-votes per day.
My point is intentions matter more than if you do or don't self-vote or then also vote-trade on top. Then if you try to break that off you're the evil person for getting in the way of a perfect farm and you'll likely get retaliated against, etc.
The debate about selfvotes will never end. I choose not to do it as my posts do okay and I think others deserve my votes more. Whatever we do can be judged by others.
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It happens to the best of us 😜. If I do it on accident or it looks out of place when I selfvote please let me know (that request from me goes out to all Hivians really). But please just try not downvote me either. 😇
Seriously though, this did made me think I would like to do a blog post on self voting one day. That is a very nuanced discussion that usually spirals out of control in Discord fairly quickly.
Would be good to get that debate less in Discord and more in HIVE in my opinion.
Count me in, I do selfvote a lot and advocating it since day one. I mean, obviously not throwing full power votes on comments. I wrote about it multiple times in the past but I'll try TL;DR summary here:
my counter argument as a curator is that i'd rather spend it on other people, especially if I already do well enough on my posts from my own judgement
but generally agree, as long as you don't overdo it, it's not the worst thing in the world - some disagree with that and that's fine, it's about the intention at the end of the day. Are you doing it just to farm or just to fairly grow your stake with what you feel is deserving of your own vote.
Those disagreements mostly happen in discord so unless people want to speak up on HIVE I am not sure what to say.
No point in getting input from a bunch of unserious moon boys that cannot turn it off anymore cause they have been in the game so long and forgot how normal people treat their "friends."
Meme token trading is gross for most people. But it is really crazy and unhinged and it is the only reason I care for it if I get bored. Will be open to L2 projects again in the future but it is always good to take a step back from those type of environments and let reality sink in a little bit.
Sure, but with even one post daily (I can't even do that monthly, even if I really should ( #witness-update ) ), it's still 9 full-power votes for curation.
The thing is, which I know you're aware of, that downvotes are almost never used.
People like you who only post when you have something important to say, no one's gonna care that you selfvote. Others may force themselves to post daily mainly for the self-vote, so the intentions change around a bit where they may not care if content is good, they may not care if anyone's consuming the post, they may not care if anyone else is getting the other 9 votes if 9 other friends of theirs get them instead who are doing the same every day and trading votes with each other so it's basically 10x self-votes per day.
My point is intentions matter more than if you do or don't self-vote or then also vote-trade on top. Then if you try to break that off you're the evil person for getting in the way of a perfect farm and you'll likely get retaliated against, etc.
The debate about selfvotes will never end. I choose not to do it as my posts do okay and I think others deserve my votes more. Whatever we do can be judged by others.
I think we can do less judging and more disagreeing. It is better for the soul! 😁
Just kidding. But yes I agree. It is a weird one and there is a lot of nuance around when it is ok or not.
I resonate with point 5 A LOT.
Have I always met this standard? No way. I have made mistakes.
But I am only human and worst case I can make it up with a better post that shines brighter!