In a few hours from now, the dapp called hive.vote is expected to resume its operations. This is a Hive dapp that is responsible for the automation of upvotes and downvotes on Hive accounts. I use the dapp and almost anyone who has been on Hive long enough will eventually come to use it for curation convenience, or at least come to be aware of it exists. It’s just one of those must know subjects while being on the platform.
Now automating votes are the norm. It’s convenient. It gets you passive income when you can’t be bothered to visit the site to manually click upvote and this gives you a piece of the Hive’s inflation. When an author has grown their social network, they are likely to get more people convinced they are worth the automated support. I consider the autovotes as a badge that someone has entrenched their name on the community to garner that privilege.
Eventually, talks about votes will lead to social rewards, whether the post is getting rewards proportional to the effort to create it, the person behind it, and all things under how content is valued on Hive. I think posting rewards on Hive are driven by three reasons:
The effort to promote quality content and reward the author of that content.
Utilizing the platform like mainstream social media that happens to be powered by blokchain technology.
Maximizing income generation.
You only need to fall into 1 out of 3 as the bare minimum to access those social rewards.
1 is the reason why curation community accounts exist, there is a drive to promote quality content because this is valuable and content present on the blockchain raises its value so rewarding people that provide that value becomes a priority. This is the ideal goal but in practice, only a few authors can consistently put out content that can compete in quality compared to content found on other social media platforms.
But we still got to push these efforts at wide community level or people will loss the drive to better their posts. I don’t know about you but it’s not that hard to leave a platform where your daily feed or trending page is made up of posts that are lack luster.
2 is coming into terms that while 1 is good for the blockchain and the platform as a whole, the reality is that majority of the user base are just content consumers taking a shot at being a content creator. If every curator pursues the ideal that we’re all about rewarding good content and authors that bring in value to the platform, majority wouldn’t get anywhere because most just can’t publish content that’s competitively engaging. This is true for any social media platform out there.
Most of the time, you’ll see featured content creators trending on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, and etc as the tip of the iceberg. But the majority of the iceberg’s mass is made up of people struggling to put out content for attention. And this mass of people are the unsung curators liking and sharing content on these social media platforms. See content I like, I press like.
It’s not that hard to understand that while the friends you’ve come to know on Hive are interesting, their content may not be but here’s a nice upvote for moral support. Now increase that charm and twerk those social skills to grow your network, you’ll eventually be a user that can produce so so content and monetize your stuff competitively.
And I think majority of the manual votes may just be a mix of “see content I like, I press like” and see “person I like, I press like”. Just my bias and I don’t see anything wrong with this if done with moderation minding the monetary rewards of those likes. This is what usually happens on other social media platforms, it just sounds more controversial here because we can monetize our social interactions here.
3 is just your standard post to earn, quality is optional, just maximize whatever rewards you can squeeze from the platform, mind your own business and don’t draw too much unnecessary attention to yourself. It’s a straightforward approach and purely explanatory. And some users do thrive under low reward conditions given the nature of compounding or doing it for a long time low key. If your objective is to earn and not make friends, this strategy is enough.
Actually the main prompt of this shitpost is the question:
What does your blog look like when the autovotes are gone?
Will your content make it to trending? Will you get some manual votes? Will you still get the same amount of organic support you’re getting without the automation?
I’ve already know how this post will look like during first few hours it will come to be. A few votes and barely worth any cent and this takes me back to a time when I was new (legacy blockchain days) and knew no one. And this is to be expected since I’ve got my engagement levels on the platform dramatically low because work life takes most of my time.
The rewards are nice but the source of satisfaction I got is just checking the view counter on my posts on PeakD analytics dashboard. There’s some analytics on your posts that helps gauge engagement and I think this is more important if you’re serious about doing the content creation gig. The inconvenient truth about autovotes is that while they do bring in nice $ for your time and effort coming up a post, it’s no substitute for audience feedback and definitely not contributory to your growth as a content creator.
If you can’t generate organic views on your own posts, that really speaks volumes about your progress. Most can get away with a self-deprecating comment that they’re not even trying. I think people do try to better themselves with their posting quality because this increases chances for greater rewards. But the threshold to get any noticeable results requires more sacrifices like putting in more time developing better skills related to one’s niche content.
I don’t know, I’ve seen authors pump out the same thing daily, little experimentation done for several months, sticking to the same topic, and this just screams stagnation as a content creator. You’re not alone though, I’m still far from the goal of building my art account @artofadamada, the only thing I’ve achieved so far is offline sketches and consuming digital tutorials.
Because outside Hive, is a big ocean and being aware that being a Hive celebrity is just being a big fish in a small pond. Even smaller if you consider posting rewards as a metric which is nothing compared to being a competent creator on your niche.
If you made it this far reading, thank you for your time.
I think I'd actually use an auto vote service if it was simply an option that comes standard on something like Peakd. If I was designing the feature, it would simply be a button on the profile, like the follow button, but it would be called 'Subscribe', from there tweak a few parameters and done. Now I am a 'Paying Subscriber' and when I login, notifications alert me of new content I've subscribed to, and I'd even go so far has having a feed that only shows content I've subscribed to.
I really like that concept, and you can gauge how much of your vote, or support, you are willing to give per day/month etc. this would then set hive up as a real alternative in the minds of big streamers imho
Combine that with the fact, when a Paying Subscriber buys HP in order to tip/support (vote), all they're doing is transferring value from their bank account or credit card to their Hive account. That money is still their property. The Paying Subscriber in this scenario can support the content or personality of their choosing consistently at no cost. The Paying Subscriber is actually earning as well. They could cancel their subscription at any time and have more money in their wallet than they started with (dependent of token value of course). If you were to tip a youtube or twitch streamer, your money is gone forever. For the consumer, this is the best deal in the history of supporting the arts and entertainment industry. No middleman in sight either. Youtube, twitch, they all take a cut.
Something like this already exist for years now and it's remarkable how it still doesn't get tuned into PeakD. Instead we have to go offsite for Hive.Vote and do an extra filter like creating a list of favorite authors and subjects just to bring close to the intended results for our feed.
Sometimes it feels like you need to use a new fork for each grain of rice on the plate. Came across a promoted post today talking about games on Hive. Blackjack, Texas hold em, plus 23 more. First thing that came to mind is: is this legit? Second thing that came to mind is: if I click that link, is my account compromised? Third thing: I can't be bothered with this.
But if the game loaded up in the Hive browser I'm using (PeakD), maybe a couple quick Keychain popups later and I most likely would have been playing all day. That's how I'd play poker on Facebook years ago. All those games had their own development teams/company. Became tremendously popular because their product was injected directly into a social setting, easily accessible.
And yes even just a handy tool like an auto vote service. Someone could sign up today because Splinterlands maybe. Not find out about peakd being a hive product for a year, then not know about the auto vote service until two year later after stumbling into a random blog post from the dev that mixed in with thousands of actifit report cards and cat pictures.
Oh well...
I find the wallet page of PeakD being the closest frontend on getting a grasp of popular projects on Hive minus the straightforward gambling dapps. Wish something as convenient as how Facebook used to show their apps was also here. Sometimes the only kick I get from being old on the blockchain is finding out someone who's in for a months to a year still has figured out some other features.
Some functions aren't eye catching enough to get people to appreciate how powerful the tool is. Take for instance the recent HBD pump where you can arbitrage trade your Hive to HBD at 1$ value? peakd has that on the wallet with some explanations but most users would ignore this small function even if it nets them a hundred dollars in a span of seconds to minutes during those wild pumps.
I had Splinterlands cards for years and didn't even know. Then folks said I could rent them out, so I went to that site. Clicked a few buttons, no clue what I did, but apparently I was renting them out. Probably been a year since I checked on the progress, if any.
I have H.E. tokens. I don't even know where the hell they came from or what they're for. But one thing I do know is those "You've received X coin from so-and-so!" messages are HUGE, distracting, unnecessary, and make navigating a comment section a pain. 0.000003 dollars worth of a token can't be missed. All the cool stuff. Where is it?
Could stumble into a deep, dark, mysterious and somewhat serious post fully equipped with some art. And there's Eccency's super happy spam message looking all out of place and awkward directly underneath.
Chuckle. This place cracks me up.
Those are nice and all but can I bother you with a Hive proposal I'm working on your blog that has nothing to do with my agenda? would you appreciate it if I just sent it via a wallet tx with a memo detailing a snipper of how great it is?
You know there's also a community out here looking for good posts, if you're pump out good content, you may get an account notifying you for a good job and a link to how you can delegate to support the project.
Yes, Hive is its own circus and I'm surprised how I'm used to it too.
How about that pseudo-influencer con artist that called everyone, Dear.
Or those overly aggressive obnoxious types yelling at people for months about not being able to figure out why they got downvoted.
Yeah you get used to it...
I don't think I'll find out what my posts would look like without autovotes because while I do have a post ready to go it's a bit late for when I wanted it (Monday) and too early for when I will next post it (next Monday, because I need to try to find the track again so I can get back on it XD).
However I imagine it would be pretty sparse, I think most of my votes are auto, because most of what I write is technical shenanigans, and I rarely post anything interesting because I work so excruciatingly glacially slowly.
Time really is a thing though isn't it. Alongside the rest of life I need to work out whether I'm flitting around here dropping comments (because people like comments so I try to make as many good ones as I can...or at least ones that will make someone laugh) or actually working (not that I'm doing any of that atm, it's all support stuff which also needs to be done and is taking an inordinate amount of time). And apparently they're all things that "have" to be done if you want to be "serious".
Feels like at school and uni where every class they were convinced that theirs was the most important class of all and filled up the recommended homework/study time like they were the only ones assigning work XD
I may find them interesting if I knew what the technical shenanigans mean but alas, 3D isn't my thing and until then, you will be that creator I occasionally upvote posting stuff I don't understand but still liked :>
The point that you still write a lot of comments, and thoughtful ones, is a commitment and we'd be raising the platform's blogging side value if we got more people doing as you do.
I follow some people here that post technical shenanigans about things I know nothing about. I like to pretend that if I keep reading I may eventually figure it out one day XD
I don't write as many as I would like, I very rarely get off my following feed despite best efforts to get into community feeds and tags, simply because I always have to decide if I'm going to work on stuff to put in the blog or if I'm going to write comments. And while it would be great if more people would put in more effort to get out there and comment all the things, I suspect a lot are in the same boat.
Everyone is busy minding their own business which makes people that go out of their way to bother with you slightly impactful than your usual interaction with your social circle. Sometimes it amazes me to see non-English speakers engage with my stuff which makes me appreciate what I lack on the getting out there and meet people department. There's just not enough time to let that in my headspace most of the time.
Indo think autovote lessens the interactions we have here. At least i want people coming yo my article and them actually relating to rather than a bot automatically voting it
Takes a bit more time and effort to do commenting that but when they do, that's already a luxury here. To get more engagement, one needs to do their own rounds of engagement so that the currency called attention recirculates. But I wouldn't go as far as mistaking autovotes as a substitute for engagement, the autovotes are can just be a means to "earn curation rewards" and this maybe nothing to do with you or your post, it's not real engagement.
What will my channel look like with out auto votes?
Like it always look like all the time. No amount I would consider enough to pay for an eight ball. I have to subsidize it with slapping my hookers about until the cough up the money for me to get my hit for hte day. Of course worse comes to worse I would more likely go to the local pub and wait for some unsuspecting victim.
But yeah, content is best served cold, with a slap in the face.
Seems like it, every person is their own niche as a personal blog.
Glad @demotry is more than happy to pay rent.
lol
I did notice that tha auto votes were off haha. Was funny when I checked my account and I was sitting at 100% VP which I never usually am. Had to do some actual voting! Lol
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I won't lie, the idea of Hive was flattering at first because of the money, for the posts.
In fact I think I mentioned it in my intro post, although due to an error on my part of the tags I didn't get much from there.
I had to write a lot of shit and a lot of thinking and plotting to get a reputation over 50, you big men at 70 are really the ones making the dough, just 4 likes and you have 2$, one thing I've noticed is that every man at 70 has at least 4 friends at 70 and above😂😂.
This autovote feature is rather new to me, although I can't use it since my vote is worth nil at the moment. Voting for others really just lifts their spirit, y'know
I got in my head space the inconvenient truth where most of the content I've come across on Hive aren't worth my time but I like the person that shared them anyway. I say most because there will be times when someone posts something novel and I just give it a few more minutes of thought. Those autovotes or any vote are social rewards of for accumulating some favors over the length of tenure that's why it's more like a badge than an actual gauge that one's content is that great.
Most votes are nil if you factor in other social media where likes barely contribute to a creator's monetization on the short term but they snowball in the long term. On Hive, it's difficult to pull this off as content after 7 days being reposted generally don't fly.
Actually, that's one good and bad feature of hive, since it encourages the content creator to create more.
You can make one great iconic work, gain a lot of votes and it's still being reposted. After 7 days, all the votes gained are deposited and one can't vote again. Hence said content creator knowing nothing is going to come from that post, would be encouraged to make again and see how far it'll go
Meh, half of my actions have issues coming through. Lol
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Maybe, but I wouldn't go as far as speculating decent and quality content on the table. The consumers will decide whether your stuff applies to those adjectives.
There are ways to get into a trending page, just not the mainstream trending page but at least anyone can get into trending. From observation, mass tagging everyone and picking fights can get your blog on trending, just not a positive trending list.
Hmmm, interesting way to describe an audience.
If I had more time to gather data, a stat program, and know how to make sense of that data, there are plenty of stuff I'm curious about on the blockchain relating to human behavior. :>