Hi there; I understand what this tag do now. :)
Let me state some facts and there are no such things called "alternative facts":
- I am not hostile towards you, or anyone personally, for the matter.
- I do dislike and disapprove many of your social media etiquettes including, but not limited to; a. Comment spam, b. Wallet spam, c. Circle voting, d. Steem shilling, e. Recent effort to try and sell vote via PH beneficiary etc..
- I will try and help stop these practices as I don't think these practices benefit Hive in any way
You mentioned that several people from "your" community are leaving, while it is unfortunate, if I am being blunt, it's not a loss for hive. As lot of your members are from Venezuela; due to the unfortunate socio-economic situation there, no hive will be bought from there in recent future. So it's a net financial drain from a pure investment point of view. If you are correct and they do abandon hive, it's a net financial gain. I am sorry for being blunt but this is not a territorial comment it's just a fact.
We want people to buy and hold hive as that lowers inflation. Therefore, boosts price of the currency. Venezuelan people, of all places should understand that, as they are fighting hyper inflation on the ground.
Hello, Azircon. I have no interest in the context between Piotr and you or why this conversation is taking place, and I don't profess allegiance to him or his project, but I do feel I need to address your opinion about Venezuelan presence in the platform.
You say that, from a pure investment perspective, Venezuelans are a drain because we don't buy Hive. I daresay that applies to the vast majority of Hive members, as most people join this project because of its blogging model, that's the one unique value that Hive can offer the world, there are lots of better coins for financial adventures. Venezuelans may not be able to buy the token, but we invest our time and effort in producing and curating content, which is what the platform's for, and the ultimate driver behind the token's value, adoption and use. Moreover, you may not be aware of the fact that we're by far the largest Spanish-speaking community in Hive and likely the crypto-world as a whole right now, because of the reasons you mentioned and many others that are far less obvious to people who don't live here. Cryptos have been a growing influence in our social fabric for years, due in part to Russian and Chinese involvement with the chavista regime. There are Venezuelans in every blockchain-based project you can think of.
Therefore, I encourage you to review your claim that the absence of Venezuelans (or Nigerians, Cambodians, Indonesians, Filipinos and members of many other nationalities who don't buy Hive) from the platform would be no loss or that it'd actually be a gain, financially or otherwise.
First of all, thank you for the comments. It is rare a get a thoughtful comment like this from the Venezuelan community. Pardon me, but even with Piotr, I mentioned that my comment is not territorial. I just don’t know any other way to put it.
Seems like we do agree on some facts that for example Venezuelans do not buy hive, and I agree with you so does most of the people on hive. So why single out Venezuelans? I will answer it. Because I was talking to an individual, Piotr, who had been taking advantage of this situation at our expense. This is the part that is unacceptable to me.
That said I do agree that this is a relevant discussion. Why don’t you write about it and point to me some to the major and leading contributors from your community?
Yes, I can see what you mean about Piotr, and yes, sadly you may be right about the thoughtful comments. Thank you for the suggestion, I've been thinking I should write more about these topics for a while. See you around!
I just checked your blog about runes.
Looking at this first few pictures don’t you think looks repetitive? People seem to think so. 4-5 comments total.... one from hive-buzz.. other comment like this?
Do you think people are caring about what you write? Are you making a difference? Again just asking the hard questions bluntly...
Thanks for perusing my blog. If you're interested in knowing why I do what I do, I exhort you to read my posts, I explain my process in far more detail than I could ever effectively expound in a comment. Don't worry about my impact, I have it well in hand. Blessings!
Very well said @drrune
And here is the rub Piotr; if you DV in retaliation we have enough idle VP to counter it. So it will be a waste of time. I can even ask someone to write a few lines of code that will automatically counter your DV. Just saying.
One more comment @azircon
May I also ask you this question: what would you do if you were in my shoes?
Assume that you have years of experience as a social media marketer. And you're managing strong network of bloggers and influencers (not only on steem/hive). On top of that you have budget (all powered down hive) to support financially every single person from PH, which is willing to share their negative story with others.
What would you do? Would you give up on this fight? Or would you bring it on another level? Outside HIVE, where your enemies cannot do anything to you any more?
If you were me - wouldn't you become long-term enemy of those who destroyed your project? Wouldn't you do everything in your power to bring as attention to hostility, bullying and centralization on HIVE, which would bring more negative PR?
I'm actually very curious. What would you do.
I am in no position to advice you. However, since you ask for my opinion I will give my opinion. If you are a successful social media personality you should try and do something that gives you some return on investment as it seems to me like you are motivated on money.
Personally I don’t have any monetary objective, so I can’t tell you too much about how you should earn using your social media prowess.
Outside of hive you can do whatever you like. If your effort gives Hive some publicity that good for Hive. As I am sure you have learned by now from reading the global news over last several years, that there is no such thing called bad publicity; it’s only publicity ;)
Enjoy your day, Piotr.
Interesting @azircon. Do you consider good publicity to share info about level of bullying and abuse on hive?
And that's a mantra repeated by those people, who do not understand online marketing and PR in general.
And your words are far from truth. You're intelligent enough to understand it. And every solid marketer would disagree with your statement.
Thank you. I will. And regardless how much I despise your behaviours in the past - I appreciate your polite and matura attitude and I also wish you good day ahead of you.
Hey @crypto.piotr , does PH has a monthly payment plan? Do you pay people to post 150 comments? Dude! This is beyond creepy!! What kind of human being are you guys?!
I wonder where did you get those information from @azircon. Did you just made it up? Just to justify your hate towards our community.
Go on. Give people more reasons to feel that HIVE is hostile place.
Hi @azircon
Since you decided to be quite mature and polite while replying -> I will then "return the favour".
I don't want to go deep into most of those false accusations (memo spam stopped year ago after hive forked out from steem; steem shilling never took place and it's just hostile propaganda, which noone ever could back up with any evidence; and PH is not selling votes - even representative from Blocktrades carried on their investigation and they recognized us as a legit community).
What I want to focus is this:
I'm truly astonished by those words.
Do you really assume that only Venezuelans are the ones who decided to leave? Did it ever occur to you, that some middle-sized stakeholders would also decide to start powering down while seeing all this hostility on HIVE blockchain?
Our PH discord has few hundred users. And many of those users are part of other discord servers and other communities. For entire month so many talks (on various discord channels) were related to this conflict. Our members would bring up this topic wherever we could - trying to bring more light to hostility by @acidyo, @themarkymark, @pfunk and yours.
I personaly know few users with over 30k HP (their own stake), which moved away from steem because they considered Steem to be a high risk investment (investors do not like to put their money into places of conflict). And now they consider HIVE to be a high risk investment and decided start powering down.
Your actions do not only affected our community and our content creators, but also affected all those who are supporting us with an upvotes. You cleared out their rewards for few weeks straight. So it isn't surprise to me, that some of them already decided to quit HIVE as well. They may not move back to steem, but they as well won't be around here any more.
And there will be more of them, since it's becoming my priority to discourage people to continue their investment in HIVE. Which you made super easy.
You may believe me or you may not believe me, however you've created quite a huge additional selling pressure. If you add stake being powered down by those few suppoerter and 50k which PH is being forced to power down and sell -> you will easily exceed 7 digit number of HIVE tokens which will be sold.
Is that your end game? Something you wanted to achieve?
I have no problem with “selling pressure”. People who wants to sell can and should sell. People who don’t like the ideology of hive can and should leave.
You personally seem to fall in that category. Learn from your own teaching and leave. No hard feelings.
Please don’t try and give me investment advice first, you are not qualified and second, I have forgotten more financial education than most professional money managers ever learn in their lives :)
Why don’t you relax and have a good time? There is lot more to life than hive or steem. Happy Friday!
Oh Piotr.... please don't lie
Blockchain keeps record. Please don’t make me prove it :)
If you think I've been hostile after spending 200+ comments trying to push it through your greedy skulls why the scheme you were running is against everything Hive stands for and in the end losing my patience and using vulgarity, I can show you what real hostility is after seeing the way you're treating a user who wants nothing to do with your cult.