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RE: "whale" you help me understand? 😏

in Loving HIVE ❤last year

If there was proof that Jeff is a pedo, then we would dump him as a client in a heartbeat. Can you prove that he is? Nope. Neither can I. Until that time, we will keep vigilante.tv online for him.

Now, back to you and @xeldal - What's up guys, can you two work it out, or not?

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If there was proof that Jeff is a pedo, then we would dump him as a client in a heartbeat. Can you prove that he is? Nope. Neither can I. Until that time, we will keep vigilante.tv online for him.

You no longer concerned his wife and/or kids are in danger? (your words).

Now, back to you and @xeldal - What's up guys, can you two work it out, or not?

That's on him. I never wanted this and I did nothing for over a year, but they persisted so now where are where we are.

Yep, my wife and I talk about him quite a bit. I've heard that Jeff's wife is super nice, and those comments that Jeff makes in his videos are absolutely disgusting. I'm sure someone close to her has mentioned it to her too, so who knows how that will work itself out. Any decent parent that feels that their kids are in danger would immediately get their kids out of that danger.

That's on him. I never wanted this and I did nothing for over a year, but they persisted so now where are where we are.

Who is "they"?

@xeldal this is a great time for you to speak up here. It actually seems like Marky wants the war with you to end as well. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Yep, my wife and I talk about him quite a bit. I've heard that Jeff's wife is super nice, and those comments that Jeff makes in his videos are absolutely disgusting. I'm sure someone close to her has mentioned it to her too, so who knows how that will work itself out. Any decent parent that feels that their kids are in danger would immediately get their kids out of that danger.

Well maybe I'm built different, but I find it very concerning someone would fight so hard to keep such a person as a customer, especially when they are such a bad Hive citizen as well.

Who is "they"?

Xeldal/Enki (pretty sure it is one person) but Transisto(newsflash) has been doing the same thing because he wanted to upvote bot spam and threw a fit in the same way. Like I said, I ignored it for a year and just did nothing about it, meanwhile I haven't been able to post or curate for a year without them downvoting everything I did (while I did nothing in response) but yeah this is all my fault.

Everyone, obviously, has the right to UV and DV as they see fit. In an ordinary world, this would not be a problem, but of course, when it relates to rewards, folk tend to get their hackles up. Personally, I think it's a very naive statement to say, "But! But! You haven't earned it yet!" the potential was there until someone removed it. With this in mind, folk need to think very carefully before issuing a DV, as this tends to alienate people, some of whom will be looking for revenge. Not everyone shrugs it off. This is why I advocate DV with a mandatory explanation; ideally, a choice pick list to stop bell-ends just putting "s" or "Coz" in the DV explanation.

While I have my own issues with how Hivewatchers operates and conducts itself, I do accept they provide a valuable service to the Blockchain, a necessary evil if you like. The point is it should be for HW and HW alone to police the blockchain. It should be HW alone that has the power to block rewards, not powerful accounts with huge HP one could argue those accounts who engage in spiteful DV issuing are just bullies.

You know, even Twitter, which supposedly is now the pits, has a system in place that stops you from retweeting an article if you have not read it. So they understand the dangers of seeing a headline and taking the whole content for granted without actually knowing what is written. Issuing a blanket DV to a service without looking at ALL the content is, in my opinion, highly irresponsible. We have a saying in the UK: "Tarring everyone with the same brush." the danger is innocent people can be affected by actions against a service rather than a targeted response to those unwilling to play fair.

I dream of earning $80; it must be awesome to earn that much. Imagine earning that regularly? I'd definitely feel part of something if I earned that. Still, from what I can see, it's who you know rather than what you post. (Couldn't resist a little bitch moan) #LeSigh

A DV on a crappy $1.00 hurts me more than some healthy account that can afford to lose £80; this is why I think there perhaps should be two types of DV, one for Plebs like me where the DV has no effect on rewards and one for HW and the Witnesses that does affect rewards although there are one or two dubious witnesses IMO. 🤣

Very well said.
Votes on content should be for the author's content not against some other voter and not just because someone is friends or enemies. It is after all, the equivalent of purchasing content in irl.
Thats what the whales in the dvwar dont understand. Many people see Hive as a marketplace as much or more than a social place. If this was to have an analogy irl. It would be running through a farmer's market knocking food & money out of random peoples hands because somebody you didnt like bought something from someone you didnt care about. It denies the consumer (and many more potential consumers) the product it wants to purchase and it denies the vendor the money they want to collect for the product. And ultimately gives a bad rep to the whole farmers market.

You probably didn't see the comment(s) I made on Mastodon.

"I am, however, interested in conversations where someone starts out by saying, "I threw a brick through their window because they deserved it." and then starts whining that they came round to his house a threw a brick through their window."
🤣

No. I missed that one.
But thats a good one!

What I can't get my head around is this idea that you haven't lost anything because it has not paid out yet. That's like telling your misses you'll take out with the $20 you'll earn for mowing next door's lawn and then the homeowner refusing to pay because they don't like the finished job! 🤯

So very true. It's like it's just there for a tease until a whale war comes along.

The fact that you have been DVed for a year ... not your fault, @themarkymark. I say again: I acknowledge those big $42 DVs every time you post.

The fact that you are DVing good content creators that have nothing to do with your conflict with Xeldal -- entirely your responsibility, sir.

If you have been abused, and you STOP THE CYCLE, then you do not become an abuser. That takes strength, courage, fortitude, endurance -- all the things that make for greatness. It is also a big sacrifice. I do get that.

If you are abused and you pass the abuse down, you have become just another abuser.

Entirely your choice, sir, and your responsibility.