Good morning
Some users have told me they're uncomfortable with the situation, which is why I'm posting this comment today. In any case, their express permission (not implicit or tacit) would be the most appropriate, especially considering it's one of the requirements of the Vegan Recipes page.
Let's wait and see what users think.
My responsibility as head of some food communities on Hive is to ensure their proper functioning and address user concerns.
And I've mentioned you because you're one of the most active hivers sharing content on Reddit.
On the other hand, it's great that the authors receive part of the monetization you generate.
Happy Sunday!
Okay. So let's do the following.
In this comment, I am officially asking @pranwala, @anggreklestari, @nurfay and @ryanaa for permission to share their recipes on Reddit in order to increase the visibility of the Hive ecosystem on WEB 2.0 and, in doing so, allow them to earn additional rewards.
I look forward to your response, although I will also ask for your permission personally in each of your posts.
Additionally, I would also like to mention @acidyo so that he can stop by and give his opinion on what happened, considering that he is the creator and promoter of the @redditposh project.
You forgot to include @hindavi
I haven't forgotten her.
@hindavi has her own Reddit account and shares her own content on the same subreddit as me. I don't remember sharing any of her posts, and if I did, it was a long time ago, because once I realized she was doing it, I made sure not to do it myself.
Great!
Hi @sirenahippie, thanks for bringing this up. I've been noticing for a long time that I'm working hard for my posts here (you know my posts were good, but it was not always rewarded highly). while someone else seems to be benefiting from my efforts. I discovered this issue and initially tried to ignore it, but it didn't stop. So I decided to open my account to avoid complications and a negative situation. And stop the matter.
sharing only my posts.
There was only one instance where I asked @koto-art for permission to use a recipe from his post in @foodiesbeehive in a comment, and I waited for his response before proceeding. because I didn't want to benefit from somebody's work.
Hi @hindavi
I think it was good to clarify this situation. Given what's been discussed today in this comments section (I apologize to @pranwala for taking up space in her post to address this issue), everything will flow smoothly. It's now clear that any hiver who wishes to share another hiver's content, which has been published in my food communities, must request their permission.
Hive is open and the content being posted here is for anyone to see. There's no paywalls, for instance, so you're not taking anything away from the author by sharing their content on other platforms.
As was stated here in the comments as well, yes, authors also receive part of the potential redditposh awards as a courtesy but it's not really something that "must" exist from our perspective. You're bringing value to the author and ecosystem by sharing their content on other platforms, one could say content that doesn't attract any traffic from within or outside should get even less rewards on Hive in general because it brings little to no benefit to the ecosystem and stakeholders.
It's not like people are sharing secrets/private info on chain that should not be seen by others.
Either way, that's kind of our philosophy on it from what we can control.
If communities olr subreddits make it a requirement to ask permission however, that's another thing and it's up to them to enforce that rule and for sharers to then obey it, so it's not really dependant on us any longer. Communities may mute the @redditposh bot at their own volition similar like subreddits may mute the author or domain.
Hi @acidyo
My intention isn't to detract from the efforts that whales and projects like yours are making to give Hive more exposure, since the idea is for the platform to grow internally and externally, so silencing the @reddiposh bot has never been an option.
Now, what I'm proposing here is that anyone who shares third-party content on other social networks must have the approval of the content's author. I believe it's a way to make the entire process more coherent and transparent, and even to avoid situations like the one that occurred today.
The user @edeyglezsosa is very active on Reddit, and that's great, because, as you say, it highlights Hive and its authors. However, the only thing I'm proposing is that he must have the author's approval to share the content. I also don't think it's necessary for him to request the author's permission for each post; instead, he should speak to the person privately and raise the issue.
Yeah, I understand. The muting can be understandable since we may curate to reward the sharers which means the bot comment always ends up at the top of comments - something I think is not very nice or aesthetic. (I wish front-end owners would create some kind of list so we can place known bot comments in it so it'd always place bot comments in a different section under regular user comments - but people have ignored my idea there).
I also agree that if some authors really don't want their post shared they could just tag the sharer and ask them not to share anymore, there could then be other sharers replacing them so it may be a bit annoying for authors to keep asking new sharers not to share their content and for the sharers to keep tabs on who they can't share content on. Hopefully it's not going to become a big issue in the future.
One thing I however don't agree with, which a comment in this post made apparent. Is that authors shouldn't feel like redditposh is "taking rewards from them" or that they should get a bigger share of the 80/20 sharer/author split we currently have built in. Authors are already getting very, very well rewarded considering 50/50 author/curator and that being ~65% of all new Hive coming into existence. Redditposh is only sending out around 2000 hive per week to sharers currently which is only a fraction of what authors make. So that's kind of my only "beef" so to speak, it feels a bit like entitlement that authors want even more rewards or think that sharing and the work surrounding that is "easy" and not valuable compared to creating and posting content. If it was so easy people would've done it before POSH existed but matter of a fact is that close to no one did and we now finally have some dedicated users who've learned how to share on reddit and are bringing some value to our content. Hope you understand what I mean there having been here a long time and witnessed things!
Another cool thing about this is, that once front-ends start generating some real adrevenue, peakd for instance is experimenting with it currently, posh may assist them to generate more which helps hive even more and everyone involved.
I have no plans to silence the @redditposh bot at all. I think it's valuable for Hive to have a presence outside the box, to have a presence in other spaces. We're all in this ecosystem to grow, and I agree with you that it's valuable to give the platform a presence.
I doubt this situation will become a problem, and I've brought this to your attention because some users have expressed discomfort about it, although I believe that with your comprehensive explanation and the approach you've outlined, everything will flow smoothly.
From what I've gathered in previous conversations with users, authors in general aren't really demanding more rewards; they just feel somewhat "invaded," so to speak, by their posts. They're happy to have their efforts recognized by curatorial whales and projects like yours.
What you're saying about the fronts is great, and if Posh can help, that's great! Anything that contributes to the growth of the ecosystem is welcome.
I'd also like to end the sentence above by stating that posh in its entirety is fully non-profit from my side. the token was launched fairly and if I wanted to earn anything from it I'd have to share and share well like everyone else. So I'm not defending it for my own interest but for the interest of all stakeholders on Hive hoping it will bring more traffic and potential new users to our content creators and ecosystem.
So, as far as Hive is concerned, I'm not doing anything wrong? If I get permission from the author, there shouldn't be any problem and I could continue sharing the content on Reddit?
Hive's decentralized so there may be people or projects or communities that may wish something not to occur when it's occurring. I personally think sharing of content - unless done with malicious intent - isn't something we should discourage as it may bring new potential signups to hive and new followers to the authors.
Thank you very much for clarifying many of my doubts. From now on, I will try to make things as transparent as possible so that this type of situation does not happen again.