Y'know, I never actually finished those movies. They just didn't grab me, and it might be for that exact reason. We gained action but lost substance, and I enjoy the source material too much to lose much of its heart for empty eye-candy.
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There's a fan edit (several, actually...) which carves out as much of the added bloat as possible, and it's definitely better. I still wouldn't say it's good. More like tolerable, barely.
I'll check that out!