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RE: Hive, Steem, Twitter, Facebook

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Let's continue our discussion about 30 accounts. On the one hand, it seems to me that 30 accounts is an overkill. But on the other hand, it is not enough for me, for example, to have one account. I have many interests, many roles, and perhaps even several personalities. Therefore, I need at least 3-5 accounts. I feel cramped in one account.

Now back to 30 accounts. If I feel cramped in one account, and good in three or five, can I condemn people who are good in 30 accounts?

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I have only one account, and I don't need any more than one account. I don't pretend to be someone else or hide behind a fake persona. Where it's possible, I always give my real name against any nick/username, although to be honest, I've used dickturpin or dick_turpin for over 20 years, so most people know it's me.

Having said all that, I have recently started using SredniVashtar on XMPP and IRC and my Friendica instance, but again, all my friends know it's me.

Its not too difficult to assume that @amphlux and @amphlux.dlux might both be owned by the same person, me. There are technical blockchain related reasons to have more than one account, just saying.

Yep. That's what @erh.germany or @wil.metcalfe said to me (Can't remember which one, I have a terrible short term memory). The reason they have extra accounts is to ensure Hive doesn't get involved or something? I have no interest in the technical stuff of Hive and the intricacies of voting on a Tuesday while standing on one leg and reciting The Free Software Song staring unblinkingly for ten minutes at a picture of Joey Ramone.
I simply like to write stuff. 😉

I am, of course, a hypocrite too! I can't exactly evangelise about FREEDOM and then demand that people with multiple accounts should be burnt at the stake. 🤣


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I have only one account, to make that clear :)

HaHa, we are all hypocrites. :D

It really depends on which perspective you take, that of one individual (yourself) or that of many others. Multiple accounts are an impossibility in real life because you only have one body with which to do business and actions. In the virtual world, however, such a thing is possible. Of course, you know that.

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Since such a thing is now possible and there is no way to prevent it, unless you make the entry level so high that, for example, in order to register an account, you either require verification via an identity document or a purchase for a large sum (which would still not prevent someone with a lot of money from buying multiple accounts). Usually, the reason for pseudonyms is that, for example, an author was politically persecuted and therefore had to do without his or her real name. Anonymity in a world where a person had to fear for his life or his financial stability and reputation is important. Keyword "whistleblower".

But the fact that one maintains several accounts on Hive is probably more of a fun element or an experiment on the part of the person acting. Or, unfortunately, also to enrich oneself personally through circle voting without having to rely on other users. Personally, I would consider it too much energy expenditure to maintain more than one account.

The problem with multiple fake accounts is that it can distort and influence processes in such a way that, for example, opinion-forming online can be extremely manipulated. Just imagine that a single person creates hundreds of accounts and then uses them to manipulate an election. Bot farms are an expression of this phenomenon. From my point of view, it is control fanatics who use something like this. Or fools who want to shake up the world. Of course, it is the fools who often point out a flaw in the system.

Therefore, the election of witnesses is not completely secure here either. Who wants to know how many individuals cast their vote through multiple accounts? Question still remains, if the opposite forces (also holding multiple accounts) still balance things out.

Lord Voldemort, however, finally failed in cutting his soul into seven pieces :)

Great points listed here. And I too only have 1 posting account on HIVE, this one, and my alt accounts are named the same name just with a tag at the end.

For me, alt accounts are mostly there for security, technical and yea, fun reasons. But your point does stand. I wouldn't be so much worried about 1 person making 10 accounts to sway/influence, I would be more worried about a crew of 10 people making a few hundred accounts to swap opinion. That's when it gets scary.

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I'm also not that concerned about an individual having multiple accounts. I'm convinced anyway that there are always only a few criminals and most people stick to rules or if not, they don't do much harm. The scenario you describe is also possible, of course. When things like this happen, that a few exert influence on a great many people, I make a point of not believing certain news and messages or think they smell bad. I am often sceptical and do not immediately believe everything that the trend picks up or spreads, especially when little seems allowed outside the trend.
People are not stupid, unfortunately they are often too afraid to go against a trend or to seek their interest elsewhere because they don't want to be marginalised. Which is also understandable.

What do you mean by technical or security reasons for the other accounts?

I wanted to see if I could spin up a dlux.io node. Dlux is a sidechain off of HIVE, and uses HIVE for authentication. In order to spin up a node, I had to have a HIVE user account associated with it. For security reasons, I didn't want to put my main account keys (@amphlux) on the server in case it got compromised. So I made an account, @amphlux.dlux that I could then use its keys to create the node.

A few known users around hive do this. You will see a lot of users with something like @username.leo or something similar, for the account they use on LEO. Its a way of spreading out keys/wealth in a more secured way.

The biggest reasons for me to have more than 1 HIVE account are technical and security reasons. I wanted to spin up a dlux.io node just to see if I could, but I didn't want to use my main overall @amphlux HIVE account to do so. (I didn't want to use my accounts keys, specifically) So for a tech/security reason, I made @amphlux.dlux for that node. There are a few more reasons I could list for having alt accounts, but we are semi talking about 2 different things here. I'm pretty sure you mean "having more than 1 account that you actively post with maybe even with different personas"

I do understand your point, don't get me wrong. I am @amphlux and I have been since 2006. It is my name on the online world, and its pretty easy to search around and find who the person is behind the name, I'm pretty open about it.

I've added you to my "Bad Boys" list. bwahahaha

I'm more concerned about the circle jerk voting, to be honest, and the possibility that some of the 'extra' accounts could get votes if they post, which in turn would increase their voting power for their own upvoting of the main account.

As I said, I shouldn't moan, really, given my views on Freedom. 🤣

Well maybe if I give ya some !LUV and !PIZZA you will forgive me :D

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I’m the one with 3+ accounts. My intended use is for branding purposes. Different entities with different functionalities deserve their own account. For example: @BeachReady is a fitness company dedicated to Reps. @AdventureReady is a fitness company dedicated to Steps. And @OneMoreNutrition (a newer account I’m still developing more) is a nutrition company dedicated to... well! Nutrition! These are good examples of legitimate reasons to have other accounts are they not? 😉

I only have one account also........

okay I have 3.....one was for posting gaming videos cuz at the time peeps didn't like it when you posted blog posts with "I am live playing XYZ" but I lost the keys to that account :D and yes, got yelled at by the big Guy........... who in turn now has a spare set of my keys :D

I do not have time for more than one account. Plus I have nothing to hide.

I also do not urge to hide behind different nicknames and accounts. But when a person is interested in different things, for example, physics, baking pies and breeding ants, then writing about all this from one account will not be very appropriate. As the author himself will be uncomfortable, so will his readers.

But thats where tags come in and communities. You can create a community for each subject and post relevant topics from there.