I think these platforms, as much as they try to be idealistic, just reflect reality. That is to say, in reality, we (humans) are a bunch of greedy, self-centred creatures. There are some very few exceptions here and there, but left to our own devices, we will spiral down into a cesspool of greed and self-destruction.
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Yes, you're probably right. The Dan Larimer vision is that collectively, as a group, win-win scenarios might make us transcend this.
I think, in reality, humans are actually good deep down, we have just forgotten how to act because society has taught us to be this way.. But if you have ever experience a natural disaster, people dont think about things or stuff, only humanity and its a beautiful thing.. This matrix world we live in projects fear and encourages greed, so we are just literally just products of our environment..
You're such a modern day hippie! You're also probably one of the good ones :). Unfortunately I don't think we really are good deep down. Otherwise when you remove accountability and consequences most humans wouldn't almost immediately devolve into evil.
Walking down the streets, often what's stopping that guy you've just walked past from smashing your head in and taking your stuff, is the law and consequences :/
I think you are forgetting one trait the humans have (this has also been observed in several animal species)...empathy. Without it we would all be sociopaths. The fact that we can put ourselves in someone else's shoes is the main reason that we do not act like greedy bastards every day of our lives.
Of course there are individuals who lack empathy and those are the ones that gravitate to activities where they can act out their disfunction such as law enforcement, the military, politics or CEO's.
I don't know about anyone else but I don't go about my day supressing any impulses to screw over my neighbors just because I am fearful of the consequences...the thought doesn't even cross my mind.
I like to think I'm one of the good ones ;) LoL. But don't we all?
I disagree with the ideal that criminals would run rampant if there was no law, that is something we are indoctrinated to believe from a very young age. That is done on purpose so we crave governments and "security."
What about the "wild wild west"? Or the mid-evil times? There was no law and people still survived and created lives for themselves. They built communities to help protect each other, they didn't need a governing body.
So you're saying people are only good out of fear? That without government everyone would just kill eachother? That we can't take care of ourselves without a governing body? That's simply not true. There are criminals and bad shit that happens now in a society, so what has changed? Nothing.
In all honesty its much worse because governments create wars, drop bombs and fire missiles at innocent people. They kill and harm far more people than any criminals or thugs ever could. So how is it better? Because it's under the guise of "safety, security or freedom"???
The truth is the system we live in (the matrix) creates fear so they can control people. It pushes greed. It divides us. It teaches us that money is more important than people and it keeps us at odds with each other on everything it can so we are weak as a whole. This system is not for humanities benefit, only for control.... I personally can't be supportive of a system like that.
But that's just one hippie's OPINION, so we may have to agree to disagree ;) Sorry this got so long and I promise I wasn't trying to come off as a dick, only trying to express my views. Take care friend :0)
YES!
Fear of your parents, police, government and God
By the way, "Government" is made of people, who are inherently evil. When the government itself gets too powerful and isn't accountable to anyone, they immediately do bad things like said killings and bombings you mentioned. They pillage funds and make corrupt choices.
The wild-wild-wild west era and medieval times were terrible times!! haha. People bonded together in clans in order to protect themselves from evil outsiders. It's where tribes, and society, really come from - protection from those outside that group. It's a self preservation measure.
So you're telling me that if all laws were gone then tomorrow you would go out to rape and pillage? You would steal and harm innocent people? Of course you wouldn't because you have morals (or at least I assume most people do).
You wouldn't stand up for injustices that you saw? You wouldn't help someone who is being beaten or robbed? You wouldn't help to create a community?
Why do you think the wild wild west times were bad? Because of history books (more propaganda). Many people liked it the way it was, with no laws. I know I would've. Sure the medieval times were probably a bad reference, but what I'm saying is any kind of ruling class is terrible, whether it be oligarchies, governments or anything in between.. The whole system is fucked.
I wouldn't. God is watching me apparently. Also I'm quite wealthy in those two departments already. I'd be the one guarding my stuff, and sisters, from the mob.
Probably not. I'd be too busy trying to get away from the situation and hide from the mob. If there truly were zero consequences for those people, I'd be next on the beat up/kill list. Those people being beaten wouldn't stand up for me either haha.
Depends on who you are doesn't it? If you were a native American ("Indian"), or an African American at the time, I bet you wouldn't like it so much. I'm sure life was good for the young, strong white cowboy who could ride into anywhere and take whatever he wanted without consequence.
This I agree with 100% :)
LoL, I'm loving the replies... and our conversation to be honest.. It's always nice to hear other people's opinions and perspectives on things, especially if they aren't getting upset or offended.. Thank you for being so awesome! It's been a while since I could have a good, fun conversation with someone not getting pissed off.. I feel like people are loosing the skill of conversation and it's incredibly sad.. I understand we are on opposite ends of this spectrum on nearly everything except this system is fucked, but that is mainly my point so I guess in the end we are on the same page in the end, and thats all that really matters.. Take Care Friend :0)
You should get into motivational speaking :D
Edit: or become a Catholic priest
Haha!
googles "can you make money from motivational speaking?"