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RE: Remove content rewards from base layer? /Yea or Nay?

in LeoFinancelast year

I agree with you and I think AI is a super weird reason to rush this decision.

This thing, that's new, might hurt us... so let's cut off our legs first.

If you can't tell it's IA who cares, if you can tell and you are offended don't vote for it.

AI at this point is just a tool.

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Oh, yeah, I dont really care for the AI reasoning. I think its silly. I don't generally care at all about someone posting AI content.
Id want them to say it was AI that wrote it, simply my curiosity, and id still think they deserve whatever votes they would have got.

I see zero, null, danger for Hive from AI content creation. If its better and more liked stuff than people right now create themselves, id even prefer it.

This is the only cohesive, rational argument I have seen from you in these comments.
But you might be trolling again and I can't tell.

Bye for now. Would love to sit down and talk to you about this in a more civilized manner and over a drink perhaps.

But you might be trolling again and I can't tell.

Trolling again? Where am I trolling originally that this is an "again"?

Would love to sit down and talk to you about this in a more civilized manner and over a drink perhaps.

I think the discussion here has been pretty civilized.

I refer to you walking on stage in Amsterdam and claiming your whole persona as 'lordbutterfly' on Hive was all a elaborate big troll.

edit: and now you get all butthurt when I troll you back.
It's not cool tbh.

I dont know how I was supposed to know what you meant.

And that is exactly why this would be much easier face to face.
These nuances easily get lost.

Can't help but feeling some Schadenfreude here. You kinda walked into your own trap.

Aynways, I think we are on the same team and are sitting in the same boat. Talking to you via Hive comments feels pointless though.

It's not the reason for the rush. It's the catalyst that allows for us to see the flaws in the design that was not seen before.

Seems to me most people could easily list the flaws before AI came a long, literally nothing has changed.

People who don't understand the network effect arguing about what adds value.

The answer to that has always been subjective (regarding content) and the only thing that will add value, is making the network bigger.

(something we seem comically opposed to)

Very true.
Hive needs a lot more variety of content and creators. The only way to get them is to appeal to all of them.

Right now we mainly only appeal to crypto centric creators. Which is less than 1% of the market of content.

Are we having a new conversation now? Cause this isn't new..

I'm not being snarky I'm just pointing out that AI has nothing to do with this discussion that we have on and off every couple of years.

I see your point.
I was attempting to say essentially the same thing except I am terrible at it cause words are hard.

AI is just the latest "bad guy" in the arguement to keeping Hive's content variety and on boarding issues in control. The current excuse to not actually solve the problem but to keep it more or less the same.

I mean, why try to change the system to attract the rest of the world. It must be the rest of the world thats obviously broken. Not the system. (That last part the snark should be obvious. If it's not just pretend like it is.)

Here it is in a nut shell. Our largest stakeholders aren't interested in nor passionate about the social level. They feel it inflates the Hive currency and thus devalues their stake. (and they aren't wrong)

They have put little effort into building it, they've never hired or consulted experts, etc. They also haven't taken many steps to move away from it or add value elsewhere.

Hive has all the potential it ever had, but very little interest in building the social side.

That is their right in a DPOS system where they hold the biggest risks and do literally have their stake inflated. These are highly intelligent people, but that doesn't mean they have the skill set or knowledge of the Network effect and how to assist it in growing.

At some point the decision is to invest or not invest in hoping someday it is "discovered". I think Hive will carry on much as it has for another season. I don't think someone is finally going to type the right words to motivate anyone to market, promote and better moderate the platform.

I dont think anybody will come up with the words either.

But there will come a point, as you stated, that they will have decide to invest or not. Yes, they are very highly intelligent people and with the current course of action(s), they can see that and know they will be forced to make that decision soon.

If they dont, the system will slowly eat its self.

The ball is in their court. Do they attempt to fix it and make a galant effort to be the hero's of Hive?

or

Do they let it burn down around them with people watching and knowing that they had the power to possibly make it better than ever?

We will all be watching with baited breath.