Being asked to post isn't cheating him. Answer the charges he makes, of VP funds being pocketed by thieves by fraud. Produce receipts for the purchases that prove money wasn't stolen by Manuel Ramos.
"...a scam project, that scams the users of Hive..."
Is the direct statement of SWC participant @hecatonquirox. It isn't about onboarding or retention. It's not about Hive posts. It's about theft by fraud.
Let's see receipts for SWC expenditures. Prove these posters that demonstrate knowledge of SWC operations are wrong that Hive is being scammed. All it takes is receipts for the expenditures of ~$155k, which any honest manager would have.
I agree with you, we want the evidence. Guiltyparties seems to be very good at rhetoric, lying and beating around the bush, he should start a political career, he is good at it.
I say it again so it is understood, we are asking to disprove that those screenshots I showed in my posts, which show both an official bank of Venezuela, as well as, transfers with absurd memos destined to the swc-official account and Manuel Ramos are false. If they do not want to do it, if they do not want to show them, I mean their payment vouchers and invoices, it is because they are perpetuating a fraud to Hive that they are trying to silence. Days go by and they show nothing. The silence speaks for them.
I just want to say that neither Eddi Espino nor the guys from Aliento have anything to do with all this shit. I can say that, because Manuel is very skilled at fighting with everyone in Hive. In the beginning Espino was very supportive I think in the healing, same thing OCD. But when they realized that something smelled bad they decided to step aside. This is the information I have. Which indicates that the only one responsible for this money leaking out is Guiltyparties. Already said it @ATLASHV96, at first we thought he's just an old fool managing the money, but at this point I'm starting to believe he's Manuel's accomplice, that alone would explain his unconditional support, which is costing him reputation in Hive, and he doesn't seem to give a shit. Then let him at least be dignified and respond with evidence. Because assuming he is just mismanaging things, then we should rethink his role in blockchain and Valueplan, all of us. On the other hand, if he's stealing money with Manuel, let him bear the cost of his sin, like the persuasive politician he's trying to emulate.
I agree. I am done with my questioning from the perspective of a Hive user concerned about allegations of fraud regarding funds I have stake in. I have asked for receipts dozens of times, and he has flat refused to provide them to me for expenditures of my money.
It is time for law enforcement to step in, and he can try to hide receipts from them at his peril. Given the interest of the US federal government in US funds going to Venezuela, he may be lucky to stay out of Gitmo if he cannot prove his innocence to partisans in the State Department. That is out of my hands by his choice.
I deeply appreciate you and the others that have brought these intolerable practices to our attention. It has come at a cost to you of funds and other things that are far more valuable in Venezuela than elsewhere. There isn't anything I can do for you other than express my gratitude for your moral courage and hard work to make this known in English, a foreign language. I am deeply grateful, and I know others are too.
Thanks!
Your opinion was a light among so much bullshit. We know there are a lot of good people wanting things to change, but it is not in their hands, it is in the hands of the powerful in Hive to make Hive a better place, but with things like this, all the good work they can do, is undermined, and goes to shit, if I had large sums of money I would think twice before joining Hive. That's the serious thing about all this, this affects all of us, the average user and the investors with large capitals.
Maybe when some whale is interested in things changing, they will change. But the sad reality is that the bigwigs don't seem to give a shit about the lack of ethics in accounting and management. It doesn't explain why Guiltyparties is still in the lead as Valueplan's key holder. Maybe his influence is too big, that didn't stop us from telling him the truth to his face. Even if it wasn't pleasant for him.
It is also possible that it isn't a single person, but a cabal of the guilty.
Regardless of the lack of moral fiber, ethical values, or good spirit of the substantially staked, I am honored to have read your words, and heard your story. I am deeply moved by you and others that have shown the moral courage and good character to bring these irregularities and theft by fraud to light. Were all men in the world of such character, we'd long ago have established that paradise prophesied to one day come.
I sincerely wish you a long and healthy life.
I understand that someone has told you and others that you will get something, such as curation, by making all these claims, and I will find that person. I'm not against you or the other guys from Zulia but that individual is a different matter. The curators don't play these games either.
You're wrong, if we ever get curation at Hive Calisthenics it will be on our own merits, and our value proposition to the ecosystem, maybe following the rules that curation programs ask for. Don't worry about us, we are working hard for it. Worry about showing the evidence you haven't given after 15 days of this scandal. You owe Hive a lot of answers. I insist, you are irresponsible, but now I think you are manipulative and rhetorical on top of that. Consider retiring soon.
I will consider it now that you've advised me. I will find that person first though.
Thank you for considering it, I really think it's for the best. After playing spy, seriously seek help from the geriatric ward.
I think I am finished. It took less time than expected.
How efficient you are, I'm starting to like you. Now tell Manuel to get the invoices. Can you do that job just as fast?
An individual who has personal issues with Manuel and who for some reason is very interested in keeping Hive funds safe a very, very long time after the original disagreement and at the same time, a person who to my knowledge never had any insight into the spending line items save for being asked to help source a few things locally, has very limited credibility. I'm not sure what has transpired in the Zulia area for people to suddenly be convinced that wasting everyone's time will somehow lead for something for them but I will find out.
No receipts from any activities in Venezuela or Venezuelan organizers will ever be posted online for safety reasons of the individuals and of the businesses. There are several countries we can't do this for. This has been the case the entire time and the only times we have ever shared photos is when the receipts themselves were unreadable. The only exceptions we have for this are goods and services paid directly through HBD.
First, none of the extraneous information you mention has any relevance to your fiduciary responsibility to account for the large sums of money you administer. Drop it, and stick to your knitting.
Second, there is no security risk in providing receipts, and that line is complete bullshit. I am offended you attempt such blatant manipulation regarding the normal operations of commercial enterprises that provide receipts to customers for the very purpose of accounting. That's a load of crap, even in Venezuela.
I have no confidence in your management of VP funds based on your attempts to divert the attention of Hive users from these accusations of blatant fraud and failing to make the slightest effort to actually prove the accusations false. You have undertaken at every opportunity to facilitate the continuation of any fraud and theft of funds that is ongoing. I have spent enough time allowing you to either disprove you and others are participating in the theft of funds being accused, or wrap the rope around your neck, and you have taken the latter course.
You can tell me whatever you want. You will not be so glib with law enforcement, which I am confident is about to get all up in your business. You will show them receipts, or take the fall.
Good luck with that.
Your opinion is just your opinion. No one is going to change the best practices that are supported by research and regional expertise just because you said so in a knee-jerk reaction to some random accusations, which I already explained a hundred times. Just like how no one will equate flagging to taxation.