"Scaling Gemini on the consumer side will be our biggest focus next year," Pichai later added.

'Don't always have to be first'
At the meeting, Pichai showed a chart of large language models, with Gemini 1.5 leading OpenAI's GPT and other competitors.

"I expect some back and forth" in 2025, Pichai said. "I think we'll be state of the art."

He acknowledged that Google has had to play catchup.