The Benefit of not Dying

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Will you live forever?

The other day I was talking to a colleague about wealth and how humans are at a disadvantage, because we die. He didn't quite get what I meant at first, but essentially a company operates as a human that can generate wealth and own property, but it never has to "pass on" that property as it never dies, meaning there will never be an inheritance tax paid on that ownership as it never gets transferred. However, there are other loopholes in there too, where for example dividends have already had tax paid on them by the company, which is almost invariably lower than personal tax, meaning that the gains made by an investor are taxed at a lower rate than personal income. These percentages add up over time and can make massive differences at retirement.

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Also, this is a big part of the reason that share remuneration is more attractive than getting the cash. For example, Tim Cook from Apple got paid about 3 million in taxable income, 12 million in bonuses and then, 82 million in shares in 2021. This means that he pays the personal tax on the salary, owns the shares (that could go up or down) and pays the tax on the dividends when paid, which is lower than he would pay if getting the same amount in salary. He also had 5 million shares vest in 2021 - about 750 million dollars worth.

The rich get richer for a very good reason.

Essentially, because of the way taxes work in general around the world, ownership is going to bring in additional benefits and that means that those who own will invariably get wealthier, while those who rent will get poorer, increasing the wealth gap. But, this is obvious, isn't it? Even those who don't rent, but don't invest, are going to be "penalized" for not earning through passive income mechanisms.

Of course, none of us live forever and eventually, all businesses fail, but this is part of the reason that investments into bluechip stocks are so lucrative, as even though there is little chance of fast gains, the compounded dividend gains over time, combined with the tax benefits make them "safe" bets. However, many people (especially these days) are looking for the short win, because the are seeing it from the perspective of their own mortality, which is an unknown quantity, but our psychology tells us to "live now" rather than invest for tomorrow.

Life is not guaranteed tomorrow - and neither is death. However, we should probably look at it statistically as to whether we are going to invest into the possibility we will survive a new day or not. If we are 30 years of age and healthy, we should probably look at ways to save money where we can and invest it into living a long life. If we are 30 and have stage 4 cancer, we might choose differently, depending on other factors- like whether we have children or not. If we are 70 years of age, we might want to spend less time saving, but that is going to depend on what we did when we were 30, isn't it?

I was reading of a pensioner who drives around to 4 supermarkets to chase bargains, as she only has 100 dollars a fortnight for groceries, which is very, very little in Australia. However (and without knowing her history), is this a case of the economy collapsing or, the decisions she has made in earlier life? Obviously, each case is unique in many ways, but again, shouldn't we play the numbers?

Statistically speaking, those who invest into generating passive income will be in a better financial situation at retirement than those who don't. Knowing this means that the Average person should be doing what they can to get invested, because the average person is going to reach retirement age, because that is what the statistics tell us.

We also know that statistically, the people whose parents invested are going to likely have a better financial life experience than those whose parents didn't, so even if we don't survive, if we have children, it is in their best interest that we get invested. And, since parents claim the "as long as they are happy" mentality in regard to children, it is also in our best interest to invest, as there are very few people who are happy in financial instability.

It would be interesting to know what households fight over the most, cross-referenced with the impact of that argument topic on experience. For example, fighting over the remote or leaving dirty clothes on the floor or, arguing about how to find the money to buy new school clothes for a child. I'd say, that a lot of the stress we experience in life that provides negative experience centers around our ability to make money, save money, spend money and provide money in some way. Having money doesn't stop the arguments about the dirty clothes, but it does mean not having to worry about which brand of cheese to buy. Then, factor in other stressors that are money related like childcare, illness and entertainment, and "having money" takes out a lot of the worry, possibly also lessening the chances for other arguments.

The fact is, we are all going to die, no matter how much or little money we have, but if we are looking to maximize our quality of life experience, I'd suggest that doing what we can when we are younger, will lead to a better general quality of life across other factors that might not be money related - like relationships. Rather than talking about what can be afforded, the conversation can be about other more personal values, the kinds of things that make life worth living.

Some people live to be rich, thinking that it is the amount of money they have which brings happiness, but money is just a tool. This tool though, can be used to affect our direct experience in this life in numerous ways and as such, having the tool available in the toolbox is valuable, especially when in some cases due to the way society functions, it is the only tool for the job.

I guess, the thing we have to each work out for ourselves is what quality of life means to us now and also, what we expect it to mean to us in the future. It is impossible to accurately predict what the future holds, let alone how we will feel about it, but perhaps we should try to simulate a future where we are struggling to feed ourselves and visualize telling our child that we can't afford for them to go to school. Is that the experience we feel we will want at that point in our lives?

Statistically, very few of us are going to ever be financially wealthy, but this doesn't mean that we can't affect our financial outcomes and increase our chances of building a life experience we value. And, perhaps like exercising or a sport, financial consideration becomes a hobby that provides value too, meaning that it isn't just the endgoal that we are chasing, but it is adding to our daily experience positively too - something few seem willing to admit. Perhaps it is because of the social stigma we put on the acquisition of money.

The saving grace is that once we are dead, like everything, we don't have to worry about any of it again. We can die poor in the same way that most of us are going to die without sixpack abs, as highly proficient musicians or a person who discovers a cure for cancer.

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I have been watching lots of NDE (Near Death Experiences) videos lately, and find them fascinating. They all account similar stores.., 'its fucking great and there's nothing to fear'..

They can't all be lying, so now I don't fear this subject. I would like to hear a NDE of a Serial Killer, just in case it's all fire and hell.. mind you.

I don't believe in an afterlife like a heaven, but I don't fear fade to black and if there is a hell, that is okay too.

I almost drowned on my birthday as an 8 year old and I remember it vividly - there was no life flashing or anything, but after the initial struggle, I became very calm and accepting of my fate.

Fascinating.., I almost wish I had encountered a NDE. How long did it last?

It wasn't for long. I had swam into the middle of the pool and didn't have the energy to get back. After struggling, taking on water and the like, I ended up floating to the bottom, looking up through the water, not moving or struggling at all. It was twilight out so it was quite dark, but the last thing I saw before closing my eyes, was the water breaking on top as someone dived in. The next thing I remember was waking up coughing out water on the side of the pool.

My first words: "Don't tell my mum"

I guess you didn't black out long enough for anything to happen. I think about this more as I get older, is this it? If so.., it's pretty crap!

Perhaps - but what I was happy with was the sense of calm. Once I stopped struggling, it was serene, peaceful and I felt total acceptance.

Life might be just a fade to black (I think it is), but that just means that we should put more attention into how we spend our consciousness. Some people think this means to live hedonistically, but I think that is a waste as, that experience ends too, with nothing created for anyone else to experience. Perhaps the goal is to improve the experiences of others to come - build a better world so that their consciousness can be better used to improve for the next iteration. To me, this seems like an evolutionary process that nature would "choose" to improve its systems.

it was serene, peaceful and I felt total acceptance.

That last part.., they all feel that. A few more seconds and that white light might have appeared. Maybe you were not there for long enough?

My missus also had one, and met someone dead (who had recently deceased).

'its not your time, you need to go back', they said. The accounts are strikingly similar.

The opening line is what brought me here.

The first three paragraphs were me looking to catch a glimpse of your perspective and having read you a few hundreds of times, I knew it was going to be carried away and it happened.

The whole piece is a wake-up call for anyone looking to slide into the unknown financial future armed and I fall into that category so I am grateful.

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I am hoping that everyone starts arming themselves for the future they want, because I feel that the last couple decades has been going the other way, where people are less prepared in pretty much every way imaginable.

At almost 40 years old with nonexistent savings, I feel like this is my last call.

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Surely the topic we should be teaching to young people at schools. There's a lot of thing that financial happiness can bring to the table. For instance, it means a halt to a lot of petty issues that might not let a person realise their full potential.

You'd think it would be taught better at school, especially since it is in the best interest of the government - or is it?

I think teaching something like this at school would be beneficial for governments in any sense. Around here, people avoid taxes and the government doesn't enforce recollection unless you have a business to your name. If people had the access to these kinds of things at least knew about them from early age, probably the economy would be better as there could always be income in taxes for giver en to keep things running and competition in the market with goods and services.

I don't actually know if it could be better taught at school but I'm sure there's tons of people schools could reach to have an idea of how to incorporate these ideas into their curriculum.

Taxes always hit the poor a lot harder than the rich who use financial instruments available.

Saving from around 35 years of age to ensure you are able to manage should you live into old age through pension funds is becoming a thing of the past. Younger generation need to do this on their own, put a little away via investing through any form of earnings.

Each circumstance varies, looking at stats and estimating for oneself never easy, necessary to do.

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I feel I am well behind the curve in this regard, but I am trying to catch up fast!! :D

Every little bit helps, laws are now only starting to be implemented here once again where money is taken directly from salary earnings into pension fund.

When changing workplace the pensionable amount no longer available for withdrawal, as happens with many when short, try cash in, then later have nothing.

Too many rely on Government where minority earn and pay taxes to support a majority, wheels have to fall off.

Strict on oneself when going it alone is to make a 5 - 10% minimum monthly earning and place straight into investment that is able to grow, some of these offer tax relief to individual depending on country.

Statistically speaking, those who invest into generating passive income will be in a better financial situation at retirement than those who don't.

That's definitely the goal to maintain financial stability when engaging in the act of investing for a better future ahead to solve most financial issues in the nearest future

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We obviously have to live in the moment, but that doesn't mean ignoring the future.

I think it's better to live life without the thought of dying because what's the use? Make plans for tomorrow. Plan for the future with what you can do and what you have control over. The concept is death is what no one can do anything about. People die, just sitting at their home.

It's inevitable but there's really no need to keep one's attention on it. That will only prevent you from living the life you have now, this moment.

I agree that death shouldn't be a focus, but it is handy to have it there as a reminder that life is finite :)

That's also true... It helps keep us in check atimes

Nobody lives forever, thank God for that. The best way to approach this in my opinion is to not forget to live today, and still save for later. You have the risk to leave a ton of money and inheritance tax behind for your siblings. But that’s still better than leaving nothing behind…

The best way to approach this in my opinion is to not forget to live today, and still save for later.

I agree. I think that if we play our cards right, what we do today is living the moment, but also working for the future. It is like looking for the cure to a disease - the cure isn't found today, but the work is done today and the work is rewarding, even if the cure isn't found.

Read the headline and I disagreed, my first thoughts were that as cryonicists most of us went off from the term immortality, thinking and trying to reach the second life cycle is futuristic enough. Then I started reading your blogpost and I couldn't agree more, again such a nice and refreshing piece.

Regarding renting/owning it very much depends on what exactly as one should always live in an apartment for rent themself to have the necessary flexibility and rent out other flats/property for regular income generation/inflow. But I agree that cancelling my Wix.com domain and buying my NFT crypto unstoppable domain made me happier and brought costs down to a one-time payment. Now I'm the owner and the community contributions they do through their podcasts are really cool: https://youtube.com/c/UnstoppableDomains

I haven't heard of unstoppable domains at all - will check it out :)

A lot of my titles are contrary to the content - it is funny when people comment on the title without reading :D

Statistically speaking, those who invest into generating passive income will be in a better financial situation at retirement than those who don't. — this ain’t rocket science, it is just what it is . If tomorrow ain’t promised , investments generating passive income will of course bring massive yield in the future, that can be promised. It is because of the fact , Hive ticks all the boxes regarding building of a passive income . It is sure a sucker for this !

It definitely isn't rocket science, though by the amount of people who don't do anything for their financial wellbeing, it might be...

the only place to live forever is heaven

if you are a believer - then you can also live forever in hell.

Interesting point:

However, many people (especially these days) are looking for the short win, because the are seeing it from the perspective of their own mortality, which is an unknown quantity, but our psychology tells us to "live now" rather than invest for tomorrow. Life is not guaranteed tomorrow - and neither is death.

I understand the US Marines for their YOLO creed: You only live once, because they are the tip of the spear in any military engagement, thus expect to take heavy losses.

But for the average person looking for short term gains at the expense of longterm passive income, Yolo creed is statistically incorrect.

The majority of us will live a longtime. While some of us will die, become disabled or simply disappear, the majority of us will continue to exist. And for that we need longterm investments, as part of our longterm planning. Where will we live, how will we eat, how will we afford medicines...etc

The realities of adulthood or as my son says "adulting" are boring and mundane in some ways, but excitement should come from elective pursuits like hiking, surfing, or sky diving, not from your finances LOL

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All I can say that I don't care whatever happens after me. I, you or we should "eat" our wealth while living and healthy.

Eating goods is an expression in my country, which means spending your wealth throughout your lifetime :)

My wife and I are considered DINKS (dual income no kids), so that changes the way that we handle our money quite a bit. We don't necessarily have college or stuff like that to save up for. We also don't have to worry about passing our wealth along as much. It's hard though because people think that might mean we just spend frivolously, but we still have to plan for however long we live and we would like to be able to help our nieces and nephews when we are gone as well.

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Death is inevitable as we cannot escape it. Yet, I believe we will be more alive than ever after we are dead. A soul has energy and continues to live though the body decays. Perhaps all of this is a test to see where we will fit in best.

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I would love to live for ever, but then I believe I will live forever, just not on this earth!!

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it is the knowledge that i'm gonna die that creates the focus, the urgency for accomplishment, needs to express love. now not later. If I could live forever, why ever do i get out of bed every morning, when I always have tomorrow?

as long as the wants and needs are always there.... it makes no sense wanting to live forever

I think you need to search deep down for what you want and what is your purpose. If your goal is money, then you will never be happy as it is just a tool. Life is about the journey not just the end goal.

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