When I got into crypto, for some time I was probably that annoying guy who would mention it far too often and try and convince people it was the future, and that they might want to consider learning about it, and investing into it. You know the type. But, pretty soon I realised that in order to understand crypto, it took more than the average person. Not intelligence per se, but maybe willingness to learn and understand.
While I didn't shout it to the world, I spoke to a few people from my circles who tend to be from two career disciplines - tech and finance. What I found was that neither of the groups were open to learn, but everyone I spoke to had a strong opinion as to why crypto was valueless, would fail and anyone who invested in it was a sucker going to lose their money.
They were right.
From their perspective.
And that is as far as they ever looked. Essentially, they had blinders on that only let them see cryptocurrency from one standpoint. The finance people are so ingrained into the fiat system, that they couldn't imagine an alternative, let alone one backed by random people. And the tech people, well, they were so conditioned by ease of use and market-ready, that they couldn't take the tech seriously, as it was not on par with what was already available - it wasn't on par with what had been available a decade earlier.
While crypto has come a long way and still has a very long way to go before it is a one to one alternative for fiat and with tech to compare, I see the same kinds of conversations in another area.
Artificial intelligence.
On a general level, there is the for and against sides of the discussion, and in general, those for AI integration think that those against it are luddites who are unable to understand and see the future, or alarmists who have seen too many dystopic future movies. Whichever side one is on, the expectation is that the other side hasn't done their research. The problem with this approach is that there is no nuance, no understanding of different shades of the positions. It is black and white, for or against.
Whatever side you are on, I think it is worth considering why you believe the things you do about artificial intelligence. For some, they might think that it is inevitable, so may as well embrace it. Others, they might se how it makes some things easier in their life now, so they want more of the same. Some might see the harm to employment, while others might see the potential for financial reward, not caring about the possible harms. Whatever it is, people should know why they have their reasons. Put simply though, people have a hierarchy that that prioritizes gain or loss.
For me, as someone who has worked with AI for the last six years in a product that sells hundreds of millions worth each year, I have some idea as to why I am against some of it. Yes, there is an inevitability of its development, but that doesn't mean that it is going to be beneficial for all of humanity. Just like the development of most things, it is going to be used to maximize profit, which as we can already see in an economy that does this, is pretty shit for the average person.
And while the reasons I have are too numerous to go into here, another is for the people who believe it makes their life easier and want more of the same. AI is the ultimate competitive cognitive artefact. Which are technologies that improve our cognitive power, but leave us worse off without them. Your content creation might be easier at the moment, but if you aren't the one doing it, *it isn't yours. It is like a company that has chosen to outsource its key competitive advantage - they have made themselves redundant.
But it is convenient now...
Humans love easy. Love convenience. Love being able to reduce the workload and have more leisure time. And, one of the side-effects of this is that we also think conveniently, which is the same issue with the finance and tech people I mentioned above. Neither group wanted to research outside of their discipline to learn about the tech, the economics, or the social ramifications. Both groups aren't renowned for their social awareness (or care) about the impacts their discipline has on society. They just want advancement of what they know and understand now.
Their future only cares for gain.
And this makes people blind to all of the potential negatives. When there are profits to be had, our greed mechanisms kick in, and so does our willingness to look at the possibilities of what might go wrong. Even when we do look at what might go wrong, we underestimate the probability of it happening, or the potential consequences. History is littered with technological underestimations.
Ever made a judgement error?
Perhaps you went into the wrong career, or fell in love with the wrong person believing they were something other than you thought they were. But, these things are far less complex than the development and consequences of artificial intelligence. So, how certain are you about your opinion on things that are going to only show their true impacts decades down the path?
Maybe you don't care, because you will be dead by then.
And this is the problem with people who are developing technology for profit. Despite all the "trust me" statements, very little thought is put into the impacts it is going to have on society, if any at all. And, in the current economy, the best way to make profit is to undermine the masses, influence them to their own detriment, control them for gain. Artificial intelligence doesn't save us, it furthers our economic enslavement. It doesn't inherently do this, because it could be used for a lot of good also, but we have to look at the incentives in play, because that is the direction development will take.
We know this.
So, whether for or against artificial intelligence, understand your reasons why, and your reasoning behind that position. What most will probably find is that when they get to the core of their position, it will be for some kind of personal gain, or to mitigate some kind of personal risk. However, we are all going to be affected.
In a decade from today, will you still believe the same?
Taraz
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I think AI/ML has incredible value and will advance technology at an incredible pace... but I personally don't think GenAI will be particularly valuable. It's main usecase will be mimicking humans online and I'm just not sure that's an huge value-add.
I don't see how it can ever solve the hallucination problem given the way LLMs work, and without that solved I think it's generally going to be too expensive to run for the value that it adds.
I can't predict the future but I think it's pretty likely in 2 years everyone will have moved on from GenAI and are excited about some other technology.
I am in bed, but the hallucination problem doesn't need to be solved to have value. LLMs are shit in, shit out. But, an LLM that only has access to high-quality content will provide better outputs than a human with the same content, with limited hallucination. This already happens, where the AI is contained only to a set of internal corporate documentation created by highly paid, role-specific humans. The return on value is immense for a company.
Will get into this more no doubt :)
Goodnight!
Goodnight?!? It's only 6pm!! I'm kidding. Hope you're now having a lazy Sunday.
Maybe I'm just not getting it... but I don't really see the immense value in a system that regurgitates existing internal corporate documentation slightly differently that may also include hallucinations - especially when you remove highly confidential or sensitive information that you don't want everyone in the company to access.
I would think companies would more highly value accurate data or new information. We have a company-specific GenAI available to us now but I since I deal with sensitive data I haven't found a usecase for myself yet.
A simple usecase:
Let's say you have a standard contract for a customer and then each actual contract could change terms and conditions.
"What are the differences between our stand TandCs, and this specific contract?"
Saves hours for a lawyer. That lawyer charges a lot per hour. Either less lawyers needed, more billable hours, or more efficient hours, billing hours that only took minutes.
Oh? Would that comparison be done by GenAI or by a AI/ML tool? I definitely never thought of the analytical potential of GenAI, I was stuck on usecases where its creating something.
This does seem useful. I guess it would transfer the responsibility of getting it correct from your lawyers to you though. If something is wrong in the contract that ends up costing you money, that should be on the lawyer, but now it would be your responsibility. I'd be curious if companies would risk the time/money saved with the new accountability, but I guess we'll see.
I like some things about it, but I wish the article writing features would disappear...
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It will just get worse I think. People like easy. There are "book" apps that are selling AI generated novels - the supply of AI content will explode, but will people value it? I don't think so. Eventually, people will seek out real again, like they have for live music now.
I agree with this. I find it impossible to value content that I either can't trust or don't believe someone worked hard on.
Yep.
Makes a big difference, doesn't it?
If it's any consolation, "that annoying guy" comes in all areas XD
Are they children?
in this case "child" is anyone younger than me
It's shortened considerably when you have the resources to mindlessly dump on R&D related stuff but no tech ever starts like that even if you do have kits and boilerplates and things to make dev a bit easier.
Only very vaguely related and somewhat amusing I read an article not that long ago from a 30something webdev who was spun out that some younger webdevs were incapable of fathoming a website that wasn't a single page app. Like what the actual.
lol get off my lawn
Well obviously not because if they had actually done their research properly there would be no "other side" because "the other side" would realise the first side is 100% correct right XD
Kind of. They are tech nerds. What surprised me, is that they are working in a startup company that has done precisely what crypto is doing now... :D People are pretty blind though.
Do you remember when the first web dev applications arrived, like Frontpage, and old people thought that their 15 year old child was a "tech wiz" because they could make a website? Now people think they are a tech wiz because they can play games on a phone and use an app to edit their photos with AI.
The logic is astounding!
I'm internally crying remembering the "amazing" code that Frontpage generated.
I guess the good thing about being able to read code was that I thought Frontpage was great because it made making websites so much easier...and then I looked at the code and never used it again
Do they actually? O_O
Damn I have some excessive standards, my poor kids XD
Although having said that it could be because there's a large element of
with a lot of people.
I think AI will be another transformative tech that will change the world. New billionaires will be minted. We cannot stop it, so the question is how can we align ourselves to benefit from this inevitable change...
The question is, what is "benefit" in this case? Benefit financially personally, or benefit as a human society?
I don't think we can influence society very much, all we can do is in best case scenario try to influence our own personal financial trajectory...
My truths now or in the future, the things I believe in, will probably not be the same. There is a difference between my current state and my current state 10 years ago. New discoveries, developing technology and its ease in our lives will change our minds.
The irony is that going forward, most people believe that they are right now, so they will be right in the future too.
damn Hive price is sexy today. If it keeps up like this I may have power down and put in HBD even more...
Tonight was my first time asking the Grok2 AI questions. I liked Elon Musk's AI. I found out which blockchain projects with AI are now popular. Which cryptocurrency airdrops are most likely. And when World War 3 probably starts :) I created an image of Elon Musk on Mars against the backdrop of a rocket and a greenhouse with blooming apple trees.
Change is not easy for humans, especially if that change is not coming from an "authorized" referral. This is what happened to crypto in the early days until it was way easier for the average Joe to deal with it.
AI is kinda similar, to understand it, you have to dive into it, read, learn, and sometimes jump into a basic introductory course to find out what is coming is not a simple new fashion word, but something that is already transforming the whole society.
I experienced crypto the same way you did in the early days until I ended up deciding it was not worth trying to convince someone unwilling to take the time to learn and understand. I have the same feeling about AI again, probably 90% of the population does not even realize what we are facing.
Yes, I share your thoughts on AI. AI is not new - I believe the first commercial usage was in the early 70s, enabling better reading of barcodes for mail sorting. What is new now, and has taken the minds of many, is Generative Artificial Intelligence, which comes with a wow factor, but also with many mistakes that show you how stupid (non-intelligent) it can get/ It works ok for creative work where no responsibility comes with the decision. But this is not how added value is created (except perhaps in arts).
We will change of course, but at the magnitude many expect...
I would love an AI assistant that could help with the Saturday Savers Club - review the comments every week, extract and tabulate (and later, amend the the table) relevant information, provide technical help in response to queries and offer, based on analying the data from a particular saver over a period of time, helpful savings pointers that would further the saver's goals and intentions. If, at the same time, it could also comb the comments and filter out tipping bots which tend to obscure valuable information and link sharing, that would be good, too. All of this is drudge work, I do it manually every week and yes, I do like easy 😁
I can see why people are experimenting with using it for posts - it's a starting place with obvious benefits, although even there, there is much to be learned about sophisticated prompts. But we could be learning and achieving much more with AI, allowing us to focus on building relationships, finding creative solutions and having fun.
Hiveus Maximus was an interesting experiment, I'm not going to get into the issues around implementation, that's available in-depth elsewhere. Aside from that, I liked the innovation and, for me, it was an easy opportunity to explore: it was brought directly to me. That was okay as far it went: but it wasn't addressing any real challenges I have in trying to build and provide something on Hive. A small thing that would grow into a big thing about Hiveus was the irritating flowery language and the bullshit nature of most of it, even though it contained kernals of wisdom. A person who behaved like that in the pub would soon find themselves alone at the bar, with even the staff carefully avoiding eye-contact.
I think part of my aversion to AI is my unwillingness to have to learn through prompts for the new technology. Stubbornly, I'll say it is all about keeping my creative process to myself and staying true to myself, but I know I am missing out on all types of ways to optimize my life and make it easier without sacrificing my own voice and creativity. Sooner than later I will have to bite the bullet. At least I'm ready now after loading up with that VIRTUALS token on Base and a random smattering of low cap AI agents.
The world is evolving so quickly that I can risk affirm that one decade from now, things aren't going to be as we might ever thought. It would be a challenging time for middle class workers, that is a certain that I have by now.
I remember going to a tech conference several years ago and I was trying to talk to some of my colleagues about crypto and they just looked at me like I was crazy. I found it hard to believe that these people who should be on the cutting edge of tech were so quick to dismiss it. They certainly didn't feel that way about AI... These days they approach me a bit differently, but I still think some of them think I am that crazy guy who plays with fake Internet money.