The issue is the so called "gamers" so far have just been selling off all the hive they acquire.
Also you can't be part of the crowd that says "i have heard for years" when the projects making changes here are less than a year old.
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True. Not all, but enough to not be able to contribute and reach the potential several seem to be dreaming about, then not waking up when reality kicks in.
Good some have learned. Looking forward to seeing progress.