The Coming CUB Supply Crunch and LeoBridge, Crash or Moon?

in LeoFinance4 years ago (edited)

With CUB at $3, some stake has moved out of the lucrative CUB-BUSD farm, and at the same time more CUB has been put into the CUB den. The CUB den has a much lower APR. Why is this happening?

Supply crunch Monday

Well, there is a a supply crunch coming in the form a reduced inflation on Monday I think it is. CUB was formerly being minted at 3/block, then last Monday it changed to 2/block. This Monday, it will become 1/block. Many are anticipating the price to start to go up once the inflation gets reduced (ya know, the ol' supply and demand thing). They may even think there will be pre-emptive buying in anticipation of the supply crunch.

At least, this is what I see when I look at the CUB-BUSD LP farm drop under $2 million in stake in a day, and the coincidentally the CUB den gets an increase in stake. I didn't take a history of the CUB den or the CUB-BUSD farm to see if the amount of one increased relative to the decrease in the other.

With less supply in a market, all things being equal, that signals an increase in the price. With less CUB being created, it 'should' go up in value. We can hope. And some people are getting out of the farm ahead of time to not lose any of their existing staked CUB when the system sells CUB to match the BUSD pair as the price goes up.

Steem inflation

Those who were in Steem in 2016 may recall there was some serious hyperinflation. Let me dig into what it was...

400 STEEM per minute

Or 160% inflation.

That equals 6.66 per second.

Yup... that's what it was. Pretty nuts, no wonder the price kept falling for so long. But after Dan reduced inflation to 9.5% on November 16, 2016, the amount of Steem minted per minute became 38/minute which is 0.63 per second or 1.9 per block. I don't know what it is now.

The point is, reducing inflation was good, and there was a slight uptick in the value of Steem when he announced the change and after it came into effect. But not for long:

It wasn't until May 2017 that the price started to really pick up, be it due to the inflation correction or not.

CUB price

Is CUB going to go up Monday? I don't know, maybe. Maybe not.

I think with the next slash in inflation and the consequential slash in APR in the various dens and farms, there is again going to be a sell off like last week. It seems logical to expect similar behavior. People are going to be selling before that happens if they are just in it to make a quick buck.

But some people are in it for the long haul. That's what the move from the farm to the den indicates to me. If you're are long on CUB, you want as much CUB as you can get. Going into the CUB den is a decent move if you expect CUB to start to climb. But that might take a while to happen (as it did with Steem).

If the expected crunch sees the weak hands dump their CUB then the value will go down. Maybe CUB will go down to $2 this time, or maybe lower, or maybe it won't, we can't really know. And that's an opportunity for those who see the value in CUB; the opportunity to buy the dip. It may be the lowest CUB gets, or maybe it will go lower, but at some point it will rise again.

LeoBridge

To make things more complicated, there is the LeoBridge coming out at around the same time as the inflation cut and expected sell off. CUB has potential, and @khaleelkazi is pumping out development which can in turn pump up the price. While some expect CUB to 'crash' or lose significant value due to the dumping from a slash to APR, it might be short-lived.

I think CUB will take a hit, but when the Ethereum-Hive/Leo-BSC bridge gets done, this will be a pretty big thing for Cub/Leo and the price will jump up significantly.

I think the future of CUB looks great. Lending is on the horizon as well I think... ;)

That's what I see coming. What do you see coming? Plan accordingly. Think for yourself and make your own decisions.

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I think we are in for another tank come Monday afternoon. Seems like some money is being moved around already but primarily in the no fee pools which doesn't do much for the burn. However the bridge as well as continued development and now the stable 1 CUB per block I feel we will see a rather steady increase in value. A lot seems to be stocked up in the CUB den however and I wonder if that's playing havoc on the price.

Yeah sounds about right ;)

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I am in the sell off this week camp. There was some outside money that came in, I would believe, that was just yield chasing. We will see another whack to the yield which means they will seek greener pastures.

There are a lot of long term holders which will help but the quick buck artists might fly away.

As for the shift in the pool, I think it is because people didnt really want to get caught selling their CUB at these prices. The BUSD isnt going to rise so the swapping if other buyers come in means selling at this prices.

It will all even out in the end but I believe that is how some are looking at it.

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Yeah, not selling doesn't hold up to lots of selling, and ppl who tried to get in for the higher yields and stay for the long run might not have any money to buy up at the lows hehe.

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100 percent going below 2. The big players if they are smart would just go all in straight away on the new farms/apps and get out its probably the best way to make the most money quickly and stay safe. Rinse, repeat, next. We have the belief and staying power but its going to take some time for all our strong hands to support it and play the long game because we know about the development and why we want to hold long term. The rest make off like bandits and hit the next train.

Damn that's some certainty! But, you make a strong case for that outcome ;)

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Pretty likely to drop, and then get scooped up by all the hardcore supporters in the community. Long term, its crazy to waste cubs at this price. just my opinion, an ecosystem as robust as hive/leofinance/cub etc is bound to keep growing, as long as we keep investing ourselves into it. Awesome post, really enjoyed reading it.

Oh, growth in future, but the dumpers are there waiting to crash things for as long as it takes for ppl to buy it up. We'll see how it goes this week :D

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i agree there likely will be a good dumping, i just consider that an opportunity to buy a bunch at super cheap rates. Hope i have enough liquids lol

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Hot damn, thanks for the Toruk worthy vote ;)

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I was going to sell initially until Flauwy helped me get into the Den. My little stake was worth $29 at the time. Last Sunday I compounded and my stake was worth $81.05. I've just compounded again and now my stake is worth $22.91.

My plan is to leave it there and compound once a week. Any spare Hive I have will go on LEO rather than CUB since I understand curation more than trading.

I also like the idea of seeing how much that $29 airdrop turns into over time without muddying the waters buy buying more.

But then . . . I rarely stick to my initial plans. Selling CUB is the last likely scenario however. 😁

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hehe, yeah it's uncertain what the future holds, selling when it gets higher is a good way to take profit ;)

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Sometimes I wonder why some folks announce what their next move will be to the people they're playing a game of chess with. Other times, I don't care.

Perhaps we're trying to transition from zero-sum game-theory to a synergized cooperative economy.

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Crypto goes kumbaya.

True, if you want to 'win' and let others make a potentially less informed and more of a 'losing' move then you might want to give them nothing, or false information to do the opposite of what you will do. Or you might want to help those who pay attention to what you say...

Which am I doing? :P

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I read things, but in the end, I use an dice for investment decisions. Immun to manipulation.

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I thought we were playing Checkers.

Damn I am not even in the right game.

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I'm interested in bringing some other investments over, but need the bridge to do it.

Based on the team, I'm ready to ride it to see what happens next and whenever there is a free drop there are sellers. Especially when many Leo holders might not be interested in Staking rewards.

Nice, are you having more luck with getting investors in than the past 4 years where you wouldn't cause of Steem issues?

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It's really hard to say. I can imagine a short bounce under 1$. Then people realize it's cheap.

It's hard to tell where the "it's cheap" level is. There will be a maximum of 10M tokens after year 1. With burns some less.

The holder can only dump the tokens they have. With a bet of development, a whale will always try, buy as much as possible as cheaply as possible.

I think real demand comes in with real use cases that will come in the future. The potential for high rewards in the future is there.

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It's hard to tell where the "it's cheap" level is. There will be a maximum of 10M tokens after year 1. With burns some less.

Where did you get that information? I've read the docs and there is no mention of a cap. One CUB per block is the final and constant rate as far as I can tell.

Do the math or read some post on leofinance.

Here the graph

Weeks / Inflation without burns. There is much wrong information out.

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Ah, sorry I read too quickly and missed the phrase "after 1 year".

Thanks for the graph anyway.

It seems that right now, going under $3 has many thinking that's the cheap level, or decently cheaper, or maybe some even think it's a bottom before the supply crunch on Monday.

There will be a maximum of 10M tokens after year 1.

No, 1/second gives over 30 million in a year...

Indeed, real use cases will be the rocket to moon the token ;)

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Btw is 3-sec Block time. and then its 10M :D with burns less.

Interesting how much bad information re out. It should end up in a " WTF is much less as i thought" end. Good for FOMO.

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Oh shite, I stand corrected, I misunderstood something along the way. Same as hive 1b/3s, thanks.

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No problem, you are not the only one that misunderstands it. I read last day's on Twitter and Hive some crazy numbers. That's why i made now a simple post about it :)

But that's IMO really bullish, because if people count with wrong numbers, it can end up in FOMO :)

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I'm just compounding and adding more to the farms! Feels good on hopefully, it will pay well in the end. When's the end, though?

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Indeed :) The end is when you die ;)

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But that's only for me.

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Been thinking about this since the 3rd day of the launch, thought about it a million times....only one outcome still...

What's the outcome?

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The most entertaining one....😊

I'm still trying to figure out the balances fully.
Just say that I put $500 busd and $500 of cub into a farm at $5 cub.

If I withdraw now at $3 cub what would I be getting back? I'm going holding regardless but want to get a better understanding of defi.

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If the cub price will rise eventually like we believe it will, is it better being in the den or in the farm?

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If you think it's going up, then den is best. If it goes up in the farm, then the CUB in that farm gets sold off to match the USD value of the paired token, and if it goes down then the farm buys CUB instead.

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Thanks! What about CUB-BNB farm? If CUB rises in price, then you get more BNB and if BNB rises in price, you get more CUB? Is that how it works?

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Am in for the long run .... i believe strongly in leo and leofinance projects

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Right on, I don't know what more CUB Is going to be used for... but it looks good from here so far.

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cub needs like 0.01 per block

I really want to see an easy cheap way to move little its of LEO to BSC without paying 1 LEO fee every time. Can't wait for that ability.

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I feel LeoBridge is going to a big move. And once the bridge gets functional and fees from bridge utilization are gonna burn more cub than ever. To Cub remains long term bullish.

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Yes, long term, short term... chaos :D

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