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Content creators are trending to an all-time high - this means more people than ever before are using inleo to publish long-form blogs
Commenters are flatline. People engaging on blog posts hasn't been growing
Is something missing in the commenting/long-form discovery experience? Comment below and I'll work on it
This is a general thing across al HIVE platforms people are not taking the time to read content and people not taking the time to comment.
The thing we can change is the attitude of our userbase, by rewarding comments and cherish the comments we get. This means replying to every comment we get on our long form posts.
Yeah we need to change the culture, that's for sure
I think it is difficult to see the responses to a comment.
Example:
I look at a thread and it says 7 comments and when I click it I see only 2, because 1 comment has a bunch of comments under it.
To see those comments I have to open a window.
unless I am missing something.
So a lot of times when 2 people are commenting back and forth under a post it just seems to get lost.
So no one sees or joins in.
Just my perspective.
It would be nice if a thread has 7 comments and I click into it. I could see all 7 comments. even if they are sub-comments of a comment.
I agree. But less clicks (pageviews), less ad revenue. The question is what users prefer and if they think at ad revenue when they use the platform. Because if they do, then they won't mind going through more hoops for more ad revenue. If they don't, that keeps them away from using certain features.
That begs the question of whether we are looking at INLEO as a social content experience, or just a glorified "cash dispenser..."
Good point! I understand the desire of stakeholders (I am one of them, after all) and content creators to increase their earnings sustainably, but at the same time the UX must be the priority, or users (stakeholders or not) will eventually get tired. Seeing this activity as building a business only works for some, as in real life. But the vast majority don't have this mentality and probably never will. Maybe future generations. And a social media website needs the vast majority for activity.
It'll be very interesting to follow how it unfolds, to be sure... particularly in light of the way Web 3.0 is often touted as an environment in which we are all β in essence β "Business Me."
Basically, Web 3 is still searching itself, with few things well defined and maybe not even a clear image of what is desired to be accomplished.
I would look at it as a social content and how to improve that.
I fee that is where the real value comes from.
Sure. but the question was not about ad revenue the question is why do you feel comments/engagement is down.
Again, I agree. That means users prefer a simpler UX for seeing comments, even if it hurts the ad revenue (or maybe they don't care about the ad revenue at all).
Yes, that can make things complicated. #feedback
The problem isn't the UI, it's the lack of quality relevant content.
interesting.
What type of quality relevant content are you looking for?
I find quality content on some things I like.
but yes I do skim over some content.
I want to find content about anything I'd normally use google to find the answers to.
thats seems really broad.
hard to grow a community or content type without a more specific topic.
but thanks for the info
It's broad on purpose, because it's what we need here. We need it all and we need it to be more comprehensive than the average blog or even an average scientific study. We need one blog with all the available info on a topic, not a bunch of short ones simply dealing with one part of a topic. This will make Hive relevant.
1/3
Because people are lazy and dont really do crap.
Most do not do many threads. The site is carried by a handful of super users. I guess it is that way everywhere.
That's a part of it
But I think the UI could also make it more enjoyable to engage
One thing that's been bugging me is how my following feed (interestingly not the other ones) loops, i.e. showing me the same articles over and over:
I also really miss the option to open articles in new tabs by right- or mousewheel-clicking. Especially given how I'm forced back to the top of the feed every time I navigate back out of an article (I'd prefer to be able to continue where I left off in the feed after I'm done reading/commenting an article).
I know I can copy the link, manually open a new tab and paste it and go, but it just feels like unnecessarily too many steps. On mobile, even more so.
It's not that these things aren't possible to work around, it just takes more time and effort to navigate between articles in the long-form feeds than I think it should.
Interesting, I have never seen the looping before. I'll make a note of that
We also have it on our list to add the click to open in a new tab (similar to how it works on Threads right now)
Thanks for the feedback. We'll get on top of these
Sounds great ! The looping thing happens across devices, both on android, win10 and win11. Admittedly I've only tested it with Brave though
This is great
More short form content consumes, the less comments would be on long form content. You can't switch from short to long as short form content takes more strong hold on the content.
True
To be completely honest, I often forget to check out the new long-form post as they are "hidden" beneath one click.
I don't know, would be kinda cool if they were on the main page... like tiny thumbnails, maybe 3-5, in a small box like that trending tags which by the way isn't a must in my opinion. No one uses it with X either. π¬
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I wasn't aware of that, since I don't read content here. That certainly wasn't well thought out. Hell, I hate that threads themselves don't fully open like a typical comment section when I open the parent thread.
No. 1 problem? Autovoting
The problem lies in the engagement in comments. Authors should interact with commentators right away or in due time. I commented on many posts where authors replies only after three days using engage app. And the reward issue is there.
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details&summarycan be used-- unless they were delibreately crippled-- on each comment. Think of a FAQ page with all answers on 1 page, but withAs hidden beneath theQs.great feedback in here keep it coming
Only so many comment-ers. Perhaps you have found them and hit a plateau. Mostly just a core group of users that upvote and engage others. New users may have some trouble being discovered but certainly better than posting on Hive and maybe getting noticed with moar eyes on threads at times looking to discover what may be around.
It takes a lot of time to read and then comment also on many posts. People prefer everything short and fast. So sometimes I vote on posts i don't fully read through just skim and don't comment if I don't have anything to say or add.
Having a open link in new tab option for posts from https://labs.leofinance.io/posts/latest would go a long way in improving the User experience.
Currently if a person is scrolling down the list and wants to open an article there is no option to open in new tab.
This means after opening and reading a post there is no option to start navigating from where he left.
He has to start from the top and this takes some extra effort in navigation.
Couple of #feedback suggestions:
I can't see whether anyone has responded to a comment left on long form *(I have to go to PeakD to see that), so a "dialogue" is impossible without leaving INLEO.
The usability on comment spooling is not ideal. Consider going back in time and reviewing how comments were nested and displayed on old-time forums.
I expect the current format is designed to maximize page views (for ad purposes) but it doesn't make for a good user experience.
With InLeo posts now going to other communities as well as Leo-land, are your metrics pulling in comments made on other front ends ?
Would it be possible to incentivise comments ? Perhaps allocate posters a number of "free" upvotes each day to be used on comments to their own posts. This would incentivise worthwhile comments and not spammy ones.
i think a likely aspect of it is people aren't used to Leo being the place to put comments from! I know that's my experience. Just have to adjust that's all!