Ecosystem takes time to build. If Hive do not have Steemit, will it have the network effect that the community enjoy today?
There is also a big difference in culture and concept between Torum and "Uptrennd, Hive & other crypto social platforms you ever heard of". While Uptrennd and Hive accepts all kind of genres and community, Torum is designed specially for cryptocurrency users. We pride ourselves as the first crypto-focused social media platform in the industry.
I do agree that XTM is a shitcoin now, because there is little utility in it. However, gamification and utility are what going to drive Torum and XTM in the next few months. We are always open to work with any crypto projects to see how we can collaborate together. For example, can our upcoming Mining Simulator accepts $HIVE as one of the payment coins to participate?
I don't agree with Hive's approach of generating more coins every minute. Look at where the utility goes for the past few months since it is launched. Call Torum, Uptrennd or any other social media project shitcoins if you like. But until Hive can climb its way up top, you got zero credibility of calling others shitcoins. 
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Steem was our birthplace, and if things had not happened the way they did, I imagine we would still be called Steem and not Hive. The main reason I feel it is a shitcoin, is it is nothing more than a second layer (maybe even third?) with no actual blockchain running itself and attached to an already deliriously slow network (Ethereum). Maybe 2.0 will be better, idk. There is no perfect method yet and maybe it'll be successful? Who knows? I doubt it though, with offering referral bonuses as that makes it look almost like an affiliate scheme and people don't usually go full board unless they're the top of the ladder with something like that. Or maybe I'm wrong.
There is a stagnant old way of thinking in Hive, I've been trying to open some eyes for a few years now, doesn't mean I'm giving up and moving on to a shiny object that can't compare to the scalability of Hive. And please don't confuse HIVE with Hive - Hive is the blockchain, HIVE is one of the tokens it leverages and produces.