Interestingly enough, it's the non-consensus changes that are the most applicable to user experience. Every time blocktrades makes it cheaper and easier for us to build on the network, that's a big win for everyone.
The consensus changes are just small modifications as we tweek the network into the correct direction.
Again, it's not the hardforks that are going to make huge leaps and bounds in terms of value to the network... it's the dapps built on the network. HF25 supports other devs running their dapps.
That's not for users.
Masses won't come here to build anything except their networks and contacts list. Until this place can really do social it's going to be niche indefinitely.
I agree. People want to get on with their friends and not be penalized for upvoting them in small quantitites.
It's really that simple: photography people with other photography people, finance people with finance people, techies with techies, etc., etc.
And that's the basis of curation too, or how do I curate a cooking article if I know nothing about cooking?
"Communities" in the real world of social networks are extremely small in general, and that's what people want.
I'll bet most would say, "Why do I want to be on HIVE if my friends aren't there?"
And when you tell them they have to pay to get on, and then they only get a small percentage of the rewards that the big posts get because their upvote is so small, I'll bet the first thing out of their mouth is: "Do I look stupid?"
Sure, and the web isn't for users. The whole web failed because it isn't for users? Or did it get to where it is by being a space for people to build things for users?
Networks and contact list? What does any of that have to do with Splinterlands, dCity, Rising Star, Rabona, Cryptobrewmaster, etc
If there's really a big demand for a decentralized address book, then it can be created on Hive. So far, I haven't seen much appetite for it
You're missing the point of contact lists.
Also as I said this is a niche. Your examples are tiny communities. Even Splinterlands is a micro system compared to the world of card gaming that it caters to.
Dedicated people pursuing rewards will always exist.
Masses however want an already finished product and content to consume. The rewards clearly hasn't enticed them over here. In fact imo the connectivity won't save this chain. CONTENT IS KING and there's just not enough here to retain a stream of new users while they (MAYBE) take a step into the abyss to play with the tokens.
That's why keeping users on Hive is so crucial. Just thinking that tools for builders is all it takes for 'token moon' is ludicrous. Those dapps need consumers/audience. That's Hive's fundamental flaw. User attraction and retention.
Every crypto is niche by definition of decentralization. We are building communities here, and communities don't have to be gigantic to build value. This isn't Facebook where the business model is to extract $10 a year from a billion users. "Social" is itself a niche, so I'm not 100% sure where you're going with that, or why we'd need it to be successful. A single popular dapp could send any crypto to the moon.
Well that's the difference. You're thinking of price. I'm thinking of why users would want to onboard their friends. Social on internet isn't a niche either. It's the standard. I would be interested in your reasoning for that view? Show me which platforms dominate, that don't have connectivity as their fundamental?
I do agree that crypto/blockchain is a niche and that's my point. It will remain that because it's just too basic.
Interesting point to make considering all social media platforms are actively engaging in mass censorship and breaking connectivity.
There are no platforms I can compare Hive to.
Hive is completely unique.
Steem? Blurt? Golos? Whaleshares?
I don't see the splinter communities accomplishing much.
Comparing Hive to Facebook or Twitter or TikTok is like comparing Windows to a calculator app. Hive is not social media. Some of the frontends on Hive vaguely resemble social media. Any centralized service in existence could connect to Hive to give their users access to the currency.
The value proposition of Hive has nothing to do with social media. This network could pivot in an instant away from that model if it suited us. Every one of these networks only has so much bandwidth (very little at that). They are all niche, and they all will remain so until we develop some pretty insane second layer solution and interoperability modules. At which point... is it really even Hive anymore if 99.9% of the transactions are off-chain and/or connecting to some other service?
No but you said social is a niche. Deflecting the point into censorship doesn't make your point valid. That's another point entirely.
I'm also not asking you to compare Hive to other platforms. That's why I keep repeating that it's a niche because it hasn't shown any ability to grab a significant userbase.
My point on social is that if Hive wasn't leaking users into discord in order to be social then onboarding might not be so poor. Only devoted money chasers are ok with that type of solution to stay connected.
Masses expect it all ready.
Parler is an example.
New dog. Same tricks = Growth.
Edit: you agree they Hive isn't social so then that's the issue. People are actively wanting to steal users from the main socials when there's no real connectivity here.
Do you not see the as completely broken (and even pointless)?
Token has no hope if builders don't have an audience to cater to. CONTENT to a local town hall Vs content to a full stadium.
I'd be patient, changes will come to make this place more social (like the proposed messaging app, perhaps an inbox messaging system as well?). UI/UX should also improve (or better: has to improve)
Just like Bitcoin has an insignificantly small userbase and always will, yet the entities that build on it will be and are massive. Bitcoin is a niche. All crypto is a niche.
Just like Windows and Android are not social, but some of the apps built on top of the OS are.
Looks like you're not the only one repeating themselves.
We've come full circle. This is the end.
LOL well I don't disagree with your points but while you talk of the fundamentals of the tech on it's own. I talk of why the use is limited due to the fact it falls short of providing what matters to users. Since people are THE NETWORK, connectivity becomes a fundamental.
@chesatochileo asked what USERS gain from HF25.
Your response was more angled to what CODERS gain.
So I agree with the everyone wins but then EVERYONE becomes a key word and important factor. I agree DEVS are a fundamental, but they provide to THE NETWORK: AUDIENCE, (which is shrinking.) So then what will the word "everyone" even mean if that continues.
Connectivity is missing on HIVE.
I disagree a bit.
With that many forks, hive/steem had in the past, it shows it can adapt if wanted.
So I think the option should always be " onboard everyone that wants + increase things if needed".
So it can be the tech behind big future social media apps.