
Hive is not just falling in price. It is losing something far more difficult to recover. Trust. Builders. Informal institutions. And the people who quietly held the ecosystem together when the charts were flat and the hype was gone.
Over the past year we have watched Hive drift lower in valuation, but recently the cracks have widened. dCity has shut down. On chain rewards were cut in the last fork after witnesses failed to reach meaningful middle ground. Now one of the most important informal financial backbones of the ecosystem has stepped away entirely.
Neoxian is out of the loan business.
https://peakd.com/hive-177682/@neoxian/dear-hive-i-m-out-of-the-loan-business
That sentence alone should stop people in their tracks.
This was not a faceless protocol or an automated smart contract. This was a real person providing real liquidity to real users when banks and centralized platforms were not an option. In many cases the loans were not small. They were thousands of dollars. They helped people survive bear markets, bridge liquidity gaps, and keep projects alive.
And now it is over.
Not because it was unprofitable in theory, but because it was exhausting, risky, and ultimately unrewarding in an ecosystem that no longer protects or values that kind of contribution.
In his own words, Neoxian made it clear that Hive was never his main source of income. 99.99% of his money came from elsewhere. He did not need to do this. He chose to do it. And that distinction matters.
When someone with outside capital voluntarily supports an ecosystem, it is a sign of belief. When that person walks away, it is a signal that belief has been worn down.
He describes the loan business as tedious. Minimum wage level effort. Constant stress. Endless excuses. Default risk. Drama. Scams. And eventually a final straw involving outright abuse of trust.
This is not an isolated story. It is a symptom.
Hive has increasingly become an environment where the downside is socialized and the upside is fragmented. Builders absorb risk. Curators fight for shrinking rewards. Witnesses argue over emissions while real economic activity continues to dry up.

At the same time, token price continues to slide. Hive recently traded around nine cents. For long term holders this is not just a number on a screen. It directly affects governance weight, psychological confidence, and the perceived future of the chain.
Some are buying more. Accumulating. Powering up. Setting long term Hive Power goals like two hundred fifty thousand or more. That conviction deserves respect.
But accumulation alone does not build ecosystems.
What is missing right now is not belief from retail users. It is a coherent economic vision that makes participation worth the time, energy, and risk.
Dcity shutting down should have been a warning. It was a slow bleed rather than a sudden collapse. Fewer players. Less liquidity. Lower rewards. Eventually it no longer made sense to continue. This pattern is repeating across Hive in different forms.
Neoxian stepping away from lending is even more serious because it removes a critical informal institution. Hive does not have native credit markets. It does not have robust decentralized lending protocols with enforcement. What it had instead were trusted individuals filling the gap.
Once those individuals burn out, the gap does not magically close. It widens.
The comments under Neoxian’s announcement tell the real story. People are sad. Grateful. Understanding. Many admit they do not even need loans now, but still feel the loss. Others openly say those loans saved them in difficult moments.
That is not replaceable by a whitepaper or a fork parameter.
This raises an uncomfortable question that Hive needs to face honestly.
Is Hive still an ecosystem that rewards long term builders, or has it become an environment where only passive accumulation and short term extraction make sense?
Cutting rewards during a period of declining activity might reduce inflation, but it also reduces participation. It signals scarcity without growth. Discipline without opportunity.

Meanwhile HBD savings offer 15% APR with far less friction and far less human interaction. Even Neoxian himself acknowledges that parking funds there makes more sense than trusting random people in a weakening social layer.
That comparison should be alarming.
When passive yield beats active contribution in both risk and reward, the system is misaligned.
None of this means Hive is dead. Chains do not die quietly. They fade slowly through disengagement. Through fewer experiments. Through the departure of people who once carried invisible weight.
Hive still has strengths. Fast transactions. No fees. A real social layer. Deeply committed users. But strengths alone are not enough without economic gravity.
Right now Hive is losing gravity.
Builders are leaving. Services are closing. Informal banks are shutting down. Governance is fragmented. Price action reinforces the narrative rather than contradicting it.
The danger is not that Hive goes to zero. The danger is that it becomes irrelevant. A chain that still runs, still produces blocks, still posts content, but no longer inspires risk taking or innovation.
If Hive wants a different future, it cannot rely on hope or nostalgia. It needs to answer hard questions.
How are builders funded sustainably.
How is risk shared rather than concentrated.
How are bad actors deterred without burning out good ones.
How does governance align incentives instead of shrinking them.
Most importantly, how does Hive make it worth staying for the people who do not need Hive financially, but choose to support it anyway.
Because once those people are gone, no amount of accumulation posts or power up goals will bring them back.
Neoxian finishing his last four loans is not just a personal decision. It is a closing chapter in a period where trust substituted for infrastructure.
What comes next will define whether Hive evolves, or simply continues to drift.
This is not a panic moment. It is a clarity moment.
And Hive needs to decide what kind of chain it wants to be before more doors quietly close.
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I'll admit, the very low hive price just has me beat down. I'm not leaving, I'm not dumping, nothing like that, but I am asking myself "How can I reduce my work load?" I'm just tired of spending so much time and mental energy here. I'm not going to dump anything, I'm going down with this ship, but that's how it is for me right now. (I still like Splinterlands though, different topic.)
I too will go down with this ship!
Hive is what i want to make it. If not. So be it. It still is closer to the type of social media i seek.
I appreciate you saying that openly.
That feeling of being beat down is real, and I think more people are there than want to admit. Staying while asking how to reduce workload is not weakness, it is survival. There is a difference between abandoning ship and conserving energy so you can last longer. I respect you sticking around while simplifying. That balance is hard to find. And I agree, Splinterlands feels like a different lane entirely. Thanks for being honest about where you are at. It helps normalize these conversations instead of pretending everything is fine.
I care about Hive but I can say from entrenched experience that it is no longer builder friendly.
The corrosive mindset of using funds to pay for friends to maintain the status quo has continued to get worse. I still have hope it changes and I still build/maintain INLEO as the LEO ecosystem’s hive branch.
Outside of that, it’s really tough to build things here without having your own profit centers.
Even when you do that, it’s attacked. INLEO premium is one of the few successful means that any hive project has shown to monetize itself. Some from hive have tried to punish users for going premium. Why? I can only point to an anti-business mindset.
Not trash talking. Just saying that this must be fixed before hive can succeed. Builders don’t feel comfortable here anymore. Dcity is gone. Beeswap conversions are gone. Countless other projects have shuttered
What if something major leaves completely? Splinterlands. Hive engine. INLEO. What will happen if the big projects eventually leave? So far, we’re all surviving and building continuously but that can’t last forever in this anti-business environment. Meanwhile, Vaporware and maintenance is getting funded on the DHF and leaking economic value from Hive.
Hope this changes! I still believe it could.
Governance in a blockchain project determines the long-term survival and sustainable development of the entire ecosystem. If governance is neglected or becomes overly bureaucratic, it will turn into a barrier, slowing down development progress and distracting from the core mission of building useful technology for users.
To be honest, I have no idea why I am accumulating Hive.
Almost 10 years to this chain and more than 5 years of fork, still unfinished product, no official layer 2, and DHF fund distribution does not look transparent.
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We need to unite around a direction we want the chain to go. I see large division and polarization on Hive.
Where do we see us in 5 year?
How do we get there?
Divide that into small tasks we can work with everyday.
I'm with you. I usually avoid on interacting with bigger accounts, but I had to comment on his post. It is sad that this service goes offline, as I used it before, with high collateral, and it functioned well on both ends. With the 5k HBD, I managed to buy the Zaku for Splinterlands.
And yes, I agree with you, stake is not everything, we need builders.
The community has always been my main draw as well as a storage vessel for such thing as my 'ship log'. For me the the disastrous fork revealed the broken governance of the DPoS "experiment"; to quote Dan.
The disaster was not the creation of Justin Sun but the greed first exposed by the ninja mining and later by the witness cabal that preferred ripping a community asunder rather than loose control of their money printer. In hindsight their wish seemed a short sighted one.
BTW around HF28 I have seen some talk about lowering HBD rewards...
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50 million market cap is extremely low and 15% on HBD makes no sense when the rhetoric was to "make it attractive". It is not attracting anyone and I have been saying that ever since I was a witness and it was 20%. I lost votes for supporting lowering the HBD rewards and that broke me inside because people cared about the promise (of attracting users) more than the results (HIVE is not attractive enough).
And you know what is worse? What brings income to HIVE? Who finances all the projects of the DHF? Who finances the curation? Investors.
There are no ads, there are no fees, there is no subscription, there are no costs, there is no business model attractive to drive value up.
The whole valuation of 50 million USD comes from people that bought HIVE because they speculated that it will go up and/or want more influence over the network by voting and doing more with their HP and/or want more curation, staking or witnessing rewards.
But the cold hard and IMO scary fact is that to finance it all we need people actually buying HIVE for themselves. I would be ok with ads that buy and burn HIVE and I would be ok with some subscriptions that buy and burn a portion of HIVE if that means a business model that drives value rather than depending 100% on investors.
Bad stewards love power and will do everything they can to maintain their position. People here need to have a wider vision of governance and finance. The blockchain was made to supercede/replace centralized systems and we can only seem to find time for talking about how many tokens we are farming for profits lol totally missed the mark here. The most progressive movement in the space is suffering from serious abuse right now where leaders are likely tied to some form of fraud to farm more tokens for profit lol. wonder on what i could be talking about? every project is going to suffer from this... profit seeking and community building are the same? we need to be talking about decentralization again... what makes a project decentralized? why is it necessary for us to talk about decentralization? we need to address what enables corruption in a system that is supposed to remove it and enable transparency for actual audit