ineffective, governance becomes delegitimized. That governance becomes delegitimized. This gives, as you suggest, oxygen to populism of all sorts. The dysfunction of government is in and of itself an excuse for further delegitimization and deconstruction of the systems of government, which then make it even more dysfunctional, which increase... It's a vicious cycle. Yeah. More vicious than virtuous. That's right. That's right. And so you end up with the situation in which with populations that are for both legitimate and probably illegitimate reasons are less able to collectively self-organize, find themselves in a situation where that collective self-organization is impossible and we have body count to prove it. So I'm curious. I mean, you're touching on it and we'll get into it later in the conversation as well. Where did the title of the book come from? Can you speak a little bit more to what you mean? The Revenge of the Real. Right. When you talk about the real. Well, the real is, (9/42)