support the show by sharing your enthusiasm and love for the podcast. Tweet it out send it to your friends and write us a review on Apple podcasts. Every bit of support helps especially in a climate like this where independent voices are needed and where we face significant resistance in breaking through the noise of partisan ranker and disinformation that has only been amplified by this most recent election. And on that note please enjoy this week's conversation with my guest Matt Taiibi. Matt Taiibi, welcome to Hidden Forces. Thanks for having me on, Dmitry. Long time. Yeah, it's been how long has it been? A couple of years I think. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think both campaigns have conspired against us on this morning. Shenanigans. Yeah. Yeah, we had a really tough time setting that up. For listeners we also may have a mystery guest joining us later. We'll see. There's a lot of technical issues going on. Matt, I don't think I've actually ever seen the back of this part of your (5/43)