relatively early in the Snowden, after the Snowden leaks, the story broke that the NSA, the American spy agency, Eaves dropped on the phone of the German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, the mobile phone. And it became a huge point of contention between Obama and Merkel and for German-American relations. And Der Spiegel, the German magazine, reported out the story, broke the story, but they never quoted Snowden as a source. So they remained that question, where does the story come from? How did they get their hands on this story? Nobody contested the veracity of the story, but the question was, why now and how did they find it if it's not from Snowden? So the suspicion arose in the intelligence community in the US and elsewhere that this could be an active measure. A true one, accurate information was given to this newspaper, but nevertheless an active measure. Now, we don't have actually strong evidence that it is an active measure, but the fact that some influential people believe it might (19/43)