mean, they're definitely I mean no Lowe's I I Could play devil's advocate because but it's just gonna get you fired up It did shock me if you like said how positive he sounded it definitely stood out. They were born a good quarter DJ I just yeah, he's what some of the things he said the average US home has roughly 330,000 of equity and is 40 years old He said people incorrectly thought Millennials wouldn't own homes and be permanent renters. The opposite is actually occurring and He says he's positive about future trends in 2023. So we'll mark this on our calendars Like I said, it's just it's one of those standouts and time will tell but yeah, he's very he's very optimistic So have you owned a house? What's that? You have owned a house? No. Okay, so 330,000 equity in your home is meaningless because you can't get it out Right, you really can't get it out. I mean, how do you get it out? Hey, you used to refinance you can't refinance now But you know how they're getting it out is Helox (17/36)