you see, by the way, is it's the collapse of the American public's confidence in government. Yeah. It starts then. It's the tragedy. It's what Bob Dylan says in Murder Most Foul. It was really the end of the illusion in a way. Yeah. So JFK, another item we'll have to add to our list for when you come back on the show. I'm going to actually end the conversation here, Dr. Sacks, because we're basically running up on the end of it. And I want to tell you sort of where I wanted to take this conversation and also to let listeners know as well in case we can continue it later. Absolutely. One area, obviously, this is just a prelude to the main act, which is really a conversation about post-Cold War politics, foreign policy vis-a-vis Russia. The question of, I don't really like the question of who lost Russia. It's a common one that people ask. I think it's actually a malformed question. But I think it's one way to think about kind of where I wanted to take this conversation, which is how (40/45)