of when the tide goes out, we can see who was swimming naked. And it turns out it was not just a few people, but in many respects, an entire system of healthcare, an entire logic within philosophy, an entire logic of biopolitical critique that ended up being enormously unhelpful in thinking through what the pandemic was, what our responses might be. And perhaps on the most deepest level, a kind of crisis in the logic and culture of governance, particularly in the West, that among the most richest and technologically sophisticated countries in the world were found themselves basically helpless for reasons that were unnecessary and should hopefully never be repeated. So how much of this book is a critique of Western political culture and what you termed to be its philosophical shortcomings? And how much of it also applies to Eastern Asian countries, some of which perhaps did much better under lockdown? Well, to some extent, I think it would be a mistake to make two gross generalizations. (5/42)