Part 10/17:

The hosts analyze the recent box office failures of Marvel's Phase 4 and 5, highlighting how the franchise's formula has become predictable and stale. They point out that movies like "The Flash," "Jurassic World," and "Indiana Jones" continue to underperform despite massive budgets and hype, implying that the once-successful franchise model is failing due to overreach and lack of originality.

The decline is attributed to the loss of mainstays like Iron Man, Captain America, and legacy characters, replaced by poorly developed successors. The conversation suggests that the audience is tired and that each new release is more about gimmicks than engaging storytelling, with critics and fans divided over whether these films ever had long-term consistency.