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Despite Aaron Rodgers' past success and potential, Joe expressed weariness regarding the quarterback's recent performance and the overall team discipline, pointing out that an astonishing 16 penalties in one game encapsulate the team's struggles. While he still has hope for Rodgers' return, he suggested that drastic changes may be necessary, including a transformation of the team’s "karma" and culture, which has been stagnant for decades.