people connect consumer entertainment as fun, and learning as not fun

I find this is generally what happens when people think that school is the only way to "learn" anything.

Even my youngest is falling for it. He was desperate to go to school (and may still well be but I haven't heard anything about it for a while) because he got convinced that he was "missing the basics" and hadn't been learning anything the entire time we'd been homeschooling (because it's mostly been fun with long bouts of downtime where they do their own thing). I asked him what he thought the "basics" were and most of the stuff he was rattling off were high school level things which were not only easy enough for at least one of us to teach, but that he was also actually actively avoiding when we were trying to teach it in roundabout ways or in ways that are interesting to them (how I do most things).

Meanwhile ask him anything about any of his topics of interest and well I don't know why he asks me anything really xD though what I can do for anyone interested is break it down into Educationese XP