You want war, you have war. The people in Donbass didn't start this, the mass looting and raping and executing Nazi militants did. You know, the raping, mass looting and torture and execution of the last 8 years? Where's Stanley Tany, don't you have a magical window? No Nazi correct, those Donbass people, not real, fake, propaganda, Kremlin provocateurs. Now you have friends who you claim are getting raped and murdered and looted, except what evidence? Just you claim, just you looking in a bullshit magical window that disregards any and all legitimacy to the other side. Correct? You want independence to continue bombing, pillaging, raping, torturing and executing, any and all who oppose, like that peace diplomat, executed in Kiev after he was accused of high treason, and then declared national hero, and claim that anyone who oppose are agents of Putin, that there's no such torture, raping in Donbass.