The road to forward finances

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I'm a prepared person in many aspects, things still come out of nowhere and hit me, but I have a lot covered through prior preparation and that brings a high level of confidence...not arrogance, there's a difference. My financial situation is one of the areas I prepare for. I know bills are coming, and that that'll keep doing so, so being prepared for them seems prudent.

Thanks that make you go, ouch

An example is a recent service I had on my V8 Landcruiser, four wheel drive.

It was the manufacturers log book 80,000 kilometre service, even though the vehicle has only done 35,000 kilometres - they do it on time or kilometres. I knew it would be a little more than usual as the front and rear differential's are drained and replaced with new oils and a few other items that are not usually included in the smaller services are also done. I picked up the vehicle that afternoon...but not after paying out $1,116 Australian dollars for the service. Ouch.

In the same week I paid for another year of vehicle registration on the Landcruiser...Goodbye $943. Ouch again.

In all, that's $2,059 out of pocket in a single week, on a vehicle I use only for off-roading and long trips. It doesn't end there though, as by mid-year I'll put a new set of off-road tyres on...another $2,500 for the B.F. Goodrich Ko2 off-road tyres I usually use. Here's the thing though...it's all good.

My sister says, it's all good, a lot...and when she does I know, it's not all good. However, in my case yep, it's all good! You see, I went down the road of planning my finances forward , meaning I know what's coming and save the money ahead of time so when it arrives...paid in full.

Those bloody envelopes

Many years ago, I was eighteen, I decided I'd like to be prepared financially and thought about how I could make it work easily and with a minimum of fuss.

I decided to work out what each expense cost me fortnightly over an annual period and wrote the figure and the name of the expense, [there wasn't as many back then], onto the front of DL-sized envelopes - $1116 / 26 = $42.92/fortnight. I'd round up to the nearest $5 to make it easier for me and each pay fortnight I'd put the appropriate amount in their respective envelopes. It was easy and brought confidence.

Of course, it took me a while to get a year in advance of my expenses; I would put extra in, [I'd go without things to have that extra], to get ahead by a year and I stayed there, a year or more in advance...since I was eighteen...that's thirty four years now. There were times I got caught out, no plan survives contact with the enemy, but the habit of rounding up always accounted for those times as I was able to pinch a little here and add to there as required.

I get it, that's not a very high-tech way of managing one's finances by today's standards, but 1988 wasn't a very high-tech year, and neither was I. It worked for me and I have to say, those bloody envelopes saved me a lot of trouble, stress and heartache.

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I still have those bloody envelopes

Back then I'd get a fortnightly pay packet, in cash, which made things easy for my envelope-year-in-advance-expenses-savings-system but that changed eventually to electronic bank transfer pay and that meant going to the bank to get the cash; I did it too, but eventually I went to a different system which is basically what I use today. I put everything on a VISA card and pay that off, in full, totally, unequivocally and without fail in full at the end of each month. The card is linked to a frequent flier program so I earn points which I exchange for gift cards to spend at my local supermarket for weekly shopping - I earn about $1,500 - $2,000 a year of gift cards which all helps towards reducing the cost of my weekly shopping bills.

However, even with that system, I still have those envelopes...not the same ones, just the same concept. That's right, the envelope-year-in-advance-expenses-savings-system is still in use!

I use it for annual things like vehicle servicing, [I have three of them], tyres, ammunition and gun purchases, holidays, major works around my houses and that sort of thing. Basically, anything I can pay cash for and that isn't a regular payment thing. Yep, it's old-school folks, but it works...and means I have literally zero stress about those expenses when they come in.

I'm not suggesting that the envelope-year-in-advance-expenses-savings-system is for everyone.

It means holding cash and not everyone has the security to do so. Not everyone deals in cash either; it works for me as I have some cash income so it's easy to stack the notes away. Not everyone has the discipline to do it either I guess. But for me it works and works very well. I round up to the nearest $50 these days and always have an excess; it's nice to have that moment of determining what I'll do with the overrun. Usually it goes in an envelope...called overrun. Yeah, I am a basic man huh?

I know there's offset accounts and small amounts of interest to be had in banks but there's a certain confidence one feels when there's a sum of money in the safe ready to be deployed on expenses over the next year and it also brings the opportunity to have fast money in the advent of an emergency arising. Confidence and comfort is what those envelopes bring me, basic though the system is.


I stack metals on a regular basis, gold and silver, and that's another, [very good] way to hold cash but having the folding stuff forms most of my strategy. How about you? Do you have a system for managing your expenses or do you do the, I'll worry about it when I see the bill, strategy? Do you have a simple system or a complicated series of bank accounts? You don't have to get personal about your finances, but if you're keen to share something, or just comment about something you've read here, then do so below.


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Hell we adopt the same system!
Eh eh yes I don't have the envelopes, for the annual expenses that I foresee I have a small box and there I put the money that should go out for the annual bills, for example we have water and waste ... I can estimate the costs from previous bills; obviously in that box I also put the money for the annual car coupon, to pay the road tax and the insurance.

Everything is divided into bunches and everyone has attached a post-it with the destination of that money.

For the rest during the year I use this strategy every month, at the beginning of the month I take the money from my salary (when I work on a salary or in any case my monthly income) and divide it:
50% for needs
20% for investments
20% for savings
10% for fun and entertainment

Often the portion destined for leisure then advances the destiny for investments... even investing amuses me anyway eh eh!

I was lately thinking about starting to buy silver coins like, I confess that I had never thought about gold... but now you've put the flea in my ear.

I'll probably start putting money in envelopes in my little box... certainly more comfortable than post-its😉

It's a great system and whether it's envelopes or rubber bands with post-its the result is the same - control and responsibility.

I like your percentage thing, which turns the money into an item. I guess a more overarching method than the envelopes. I like the specific nature of the envelopes though, it turns the money into a thing if only a word on the front if the envelope. That way, I can open the safe, flick through the envelopes and see: Tyres, Landcruiser service, Europe, Sig Sauer (a gun), gold or silver, and so on. It becomes that thing, in my mind. The same as post-its I guess. That visual aspect helps the process along.

Dividing up the expense to fortnightly or monthly (whatever the pay cycle is) is important though.

Just on the stacking. It's a way to hold cash and I've been doing it for a while. I started with silver and a small bit of gold and have a savings plan, a strategy, to have the money for it so I buy regularly. It's nice to have it in the safe, I feel like a pirate, and the ability to take it and cash out is comforting. One day I'll use it I guess, or it'll all go to my niece and nephew, but for now...it's nice to know it's there and a hobby that will increase in value.

Well I would say that these are excellent hobbies eh eh!

I think I'll start it soon too, then I really like this pirate thing... I've always felt like it!🤟

I teach myself to practice self-restraint in making expense. Allocation were made for need and leisure at the start of the month; and then at the mid of the month I'll check if I already used half of it.
Self-restraint very important when living in the cities, since I could easily trapped with temptation of what my social peers spending. Its about minding my own business.
Thanks for the sharing!

I think that's a very responsible way of doing it and with your mid-month check you know wheriyou can do something a little extra or not...or to take that money and save it invest it.

You have a good strategy.

That’s a good system you have.

My banking app allows for 20 digital ‘piggy-banks’, which I use to allocate money to certain expenses.

Some examples of the categories are groceries, car, taxes, presents, emergency fund and general savings.

I would like to have more than 20, but that’s not allowed unfortunately.

I noticed my bank has started a new app which permits lots of bank accounts like that, basically little piggy bank's as you say. It's probably not something I'd use myself but if it keeps a person on track then that's great. I have a holiday account that gets a sum put in there monthly, hopefully I get to use it again one day, but other than that just my main account where my pay goes into and from where I transfer from to pay my VISA off each month. This, and the envelopes, has worked for me for many years.

I don't think it matters what system a person uses, what's important is that they have one that works and they stick to it.

Thanks for your comment and well done for taking control of your finances.

I agree, you should have a system and be committed to keep using it.

This is much much better than not having a system

I earn about $1,500 - $2,000 a year of gift cards which all helps towards reducing the cost of my weekly shopping bills

God bless Australia. I was about to ask what type of banknotes those galenkps are, but then I realized it's your copyright for the pics...

The gift cards come in handy, it's a fair amount of money and helps at the supermarket and one can buy fuel with them or whatever. The points I earn on the VISA can be spent at the online store, exchanged for items...but I always get the gift cards - it seems to make more sense.

Lol, yeah the galenkp 50's...just a watermark, but maybe one day I'll have my own money. 🤣

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Good point.

Similar system used for many years school book with columns with header, paperclips to clip money add a notes with a post-it type sticky label, or envelopes.

From very first day of earning one had to pay rent at home, train ticket for the month, some savings into bank with small allowance to oneself for fun things or clothing.

Still use this system for some odd payments to be made, always have some fiat in a home for rainy day one never knows when you really need it. Emergency cash!

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Sometimes it's the simple methods that work the most effectively. Banks try to complicate things I think, when it doesn't need to be so complex. Of course, these days so many people don't have the discipline to save...or responsibly pay their expenses.

Life was easier working with simple systems, today everyone in banking, insurance, etc., all want to add extra 'perks' wherein lie the hidden expenses. If I want to go to the bakery I did not enter with purchasing flowers in mind!

Saving for what one might need on a rainy day, is a must, those rainy days have hit more than once, when you buckle to your knees in shocked reaction as to how many times this is never taken into consideration.

Do you know how much money you make per hour and try to equivalate the time you spent in order to pay for it? I try this lately and it is annoying. Money=Time make me less willing to spend.

I don't do it this way as I'm fairly disciplined with my spending already although it's not a bad way to go. With cost savings, I often equate the money to a thing though. Like, *if I save $150 on so and so, that's a tank if diesel for my 4x4. Turning the money into a tangible thing in my head makes it seem more real.

Thanks for your comment.

Happy to help. I am working towards financial independence too.

Smart way to go. ✅

I often do the same.

It's been different ways of keeping up at different times in life as I am sure is common. Many times I had enough for what I really needed, but not much leftover. Sometimes I thought I was saving something and then BAM ! something came up that took that exact amount ! It was not a fun surprise, but I had to acknowledge that at least I had it when I needed it.

I kind of went sideways on debt a little when I took a 6 year midlife adventure ! I came out of it with debt that I have since paid off, but it did take a while.

At this moment (I say that because you can never be quiet sure what the next moment might bring).... I make more than I have to have and so I save some, more than ever before and spend some on myself and others. What I save is not earmarked for any particular purpose, it's just there for whatever comes up while I always hope nothing comes up. LOL..... "They" say (whoever "they" are) that you should have at least 6 months worth of money put back just in case something goes wrong and by surprise you all of the sudden have no income. That way you will have time for adjusting and regrouping without being out on the street. More than that would be better I am thinking, but I would think that would be a minimum.

There's many ways to do it, but as long as one is doing it then there's a solid and viable way forward.

What I get with you, is that you know what you spend (your outgoings) as you said you make more than you need, and that you save the rest. A solid strategy. Also the six-month reserve is a great idea as it brings a level of comfort, less stress, and that's a good thing.

Now...maybe we'll hear about that six year adventure at some stage...hmm? 😁 Only if you want to...I'm not trying to pry...much.

Ohhhhh the stories ! Some I will never admit too as long as I have control of myself. What I tell after that I hope will be written off as nonsense told by a crazy person, because certainly THAT canNOT be the truth !

😂

Haha, well I'd thought as much! You can't blame me for pushing the issue though right? My suspicions are confirmed and now I'm even more curious.

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Being prepared is always good. It gives someone confidence because when you are sure of some reserved money.

Indeed, being prepared mitigates the risk of problems down the track.

You are extremely right. Not having enough money has cost me a lot. Which means not being prepared

Do you keep yours separated.

@pooky-jax takes care of it all. Both of ours. A huge headache I am thankful I do not have to deal with...

Finances.

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Separate finances? Nope.