WHAT IF MOTIVATION IS NOT ENOUGH || SUICIDAL THOUGHTS

in Hive Learners2 years ago

There are certain points in our life when everything seems to be down, everything seems not to be working just like the way we want, everything looks as if the world is against us, that life is against us and that destiny doesn't choose the path we want.

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We have people who have been so down to this point, who lie down on their beds (that's if they have beds and pillows to lay on top) while they cry silently in them to the point of breaking down, to the point of thinking of taking their own lives.

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What kind of depression do we call this? Maybe one at its peak 🤔. There are people who commit suicide every day because of scenarios similar to this; because they felt life has nothing else to offer them; because they see the world does not have any impact with or without them in it; because they see nothing left to live for; because they don't see their life essence.

They ask themselves suicidal thoughts; why keep struggling when they can just end it all?

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I begin to wonder what sort of struggle one may have faced getting to this level of depression, frustration, melancholy, despondency, and misery. Many of these kinds of people must have given all they have, put all the effort they have, and yet see no result, or either they must have lost a lot so dearly to them to see no more reason to live for.

At this point, do you think a motivational message would take any effect to make them change their thoughts or would they all be like speeches to a deaf person?

If you think people in this kind of category do not exist, then you should ask yourself: Why do we hear of people committing suicide almost every day? There can be no other reason that people in this state exist and how can we help them if we see someone in such a position?

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I need you to pause a minute and ask yourself that question. You just don't know you may find yourself meeting someone in that condition sooner than you expect or even, or you may end up in such a position in the future, which I hope not. Then, how do you help yourself?

I would have loved to write my answer down on this post, but I would reserve my answer to listen to what you have to say over these questions. I would deeply appreciate your replies by curating your comments.

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 2 years ago  

Deep topic. Personally I think the biggest problem for depressive people is the "normal" society who wants them to be "as funktional as everybody has to be in our society". I wonder if depression would be accepted as "Hey its totaly okay, how you are and how you feel, just take your time as long as you want" instead of "Youre not normal, do this, you can do that or take some pills to get up again", would it make a difference for them not having this pressure?
Just this afternoon I stumbeld over a book preview "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck(Mark Manson). I just read the first sites, but its also about how we all think we have to be so always happy shiny successful.

So the question is: Are they going to suicide because they dont want to live at all, or because they dont want and cannot live in this kind of society. The moment we accept this thought, maybe we could help.

oh I think I am getting you. I feel why people say this:

You're not normal, do this, you can do that or take some pills to get up again

...is because they actually care for them and want to help them out to get better. That is why they make suggestions on what they can do to feel better. ..

I don't think feeling depressed is totally okay. Something is wrong and must have caused one to feel that way. So giving them time is not a bad idea but it is necessary to always check on them so they would not be suicidal. you get me?

 2 years ago  

Hmmmmm a huge sigh of relief again!

I have been in this situation several times and somehow I managed to walk away from it?!... Experiences and circumstances of this life would make a soft person break down and give up....

Returning to depression state gosh! The worst and most confusing moments of life for such victim experiencing this tragic time... Life would be totally meaningless, worthless, no hope no faith to hold on to.. just you in your sinking world with no real friends to check up on you... That time you begin to calculate your failures and setbacks...

And if there's no light for you at the end of the tunnel... the victim takes his life.

signs of relief? My clickbait worked right 😂😂😂... You thought I was the one actually having suicidal thoughts.

Hmm, definitely experiences and circumstances can do that to a person who is soft, and most especially someone with low esteem.

And if there's no light for you at the end of the tunnel... the victim takes his life.

This is totally true.. the victim could possibly take his life.

 2 years ago  

Exactly 💯

Wait what?
Click bait ehhhhh lol

click bait... making an attractive topic hard to resist.

 2 years ago  

Yeah you're right!
I didn't knew it was though!
Nice catch.

 2 years ago  

Exactly, if there can just be one real friend and a little faith and hope then I'm sure the victim can overcome.

The friends and family around us are the major reasons why one breaks down to being depressed.

 2 years ago  

I can relate though!
Having real friends counts a lot

 2 years ago  

Yes it do counts.

 2 years ago  

I don't think I would want to experience it but that will never make me try committing suicide. We are different from each other though and we don't know what the other person has gone through to an extreme and they feel suicide is the only option, but is it the way?

To me, I feel people like this need to see it this way life will always be in twos (good and bad) and the only cause of those doing this is that they lack patience and do not believe in miracles.

One question I should ask is "did they seek help from B even if A didn't help or perhaps ask from C till they find help?".

So many people do not believe in God and thereby resulting in them taking their lives when they should have waited and been patient.

Well, I wouldn't want to start blaming those who already committed suicide but let's be hopeful and believe that even if things do happen in a way we never expected, there is always a place to run to for help and that is God.

Let me stop here for now. Your post was included in my curation list from Dreemport 😎

Hmm.. lovely reply.. This is quite similar to what I have in mind, In a frustrating situation like this, the best place to run to is God.

 2 years ago  

Yes oo, it will not be worse for God not to show up in a way. I can't remember where I heard this story from. This woman had lost it all, including her children and she was inside about to commit suicide and she kept hearing someone knocking at her door, at the third time, she opened and a young boy came to give her a tract with the statement "God still loves you"
She said she could have committed suicide if not for the young boy who came at that moment and she knew God answers her prayer.

So, in situations like this, let's be closer to God.

Thank you 😊

 2 years ago  

So I'll go personal here, I've been depressed and suicidal, motivational talks didn't help and in my case, most people didn't notice it but what helped was people just being there; not saying anything per say but knowing that I had people to live for who loved me helped a lot.

Yes, you had something but the case is different when it comes to people who have no one. There are people in very critical situations. In that scenario, they are highly suicidal...

I am glad that you had people there for you. If not, where would Mary Jane be by now?

 2 years ago (edited) 

You can't help people who are suicidal unless they want help, even with people around, I still tried over and over, it takes a lot of self-reflection

Omo.... Some people a million naira can do the job 😂😅

 2 years ago  

Trust me, money wouldn't cure depression, most times it's so unexplainable and deep rooted

Yeah, that is if the problem doesn't come from the poverty aspect. but if it comes from losing someone or from a spiritual level, then helping such a person would be tough to help.

 2 years ago  

Depression isn't about losing someone or spiritual level though, it's deeper most times.

 2 years ago  

Depression can kill if it hasn't killed more than enough people already and it is very sad to hear that people take their lives by themselves because of how life treats them. I believe the ability to control depression and move on in life is only the grace of God. And if God doesn't help you to overcome, you might end up loosing your life.

I have also been into depression and faced life through so many difficulties even at my tender age, this is what surprises me the most, as young as I am. But I believe that,

when there is life, there is hope.

so why die when you still have hope(life)?!, why kill your hope because of depression?!

At this point, do you think a motivational message would take any effect to make them change their thoughts or would they all be like speeches to a deaf person?

Motivation may vary differently from person to person some people do not believe in spoken words but rather actions. And some people can take little advise and keep it to themselves. But what matters most is your ability to understand and stand back up from your depression.

So in this case if you can do both it would be deeply appreciated. If you can speak good words of encouragement and at the same time take a step into supporting them either financially or anywhere the action is needed this is the most appreciated effort so far.

The ability to overcome depression is mostly by the grace of God alone so we can only pray to God concerning this. And while God is there to answer that prayers, we should also help ourselves too.

This is the reason why you should always check up on some old friends because people are going through alot even without telling you anything they keep their depression to themselves and work their hard life through.

 2 years ago  

I love what you said at the end of your contribution, we should try to check on some old friends either through visiting or phone calls even messages.

Yeah, prayer is an important factor in our lives. Every human needs it to survive. It takes more than just words, action is required to help a person in such a situation. I really love your reply bro.

 2 years ago  

Thank you @starstrings01

My pleasure

 2 years ago  

how can we help them if we see someone in such a position?

Hmmmm, suicide is becoming alarming in our society today. Atimes I see the rich committing suicide too and I will be like kilode? What is it again when you are comfortable but then, I have come to realize that a lot of people commit suicide for so many reasons, some can be that life inst fair to them just the way you explained above and host other reasons?

Whatever the case may be, if I come in contact with anyone with a suicidal mission, I will do the following :

  1. Ask direct questions...if I am lucky to obtain a reason answers from the person ....then

  2. I will offer support, this might be financial support or anything suitable at that point to save a life.

  3. I will also build a kind of support network, people that will attend to the victim so quick to expand the solution.

  4. I will encourage the victim to communicate with me sooooo often, this is to reduce such suicidal thoughts to some extent and for me to track his next move.

  5. Finally, I will let him know that I won't keep his suicidal mission secret from his family members, maybe he will reflect a bit a have a rethink. However, I wouldn't judge him for any of his reasons for wanting to commit suicide.

You see, in this category of people you discussed above, their minds might be made up already, so motivation may not give a reasonable result but some step of action and that's my basis of the suggestions above!

Thanks, I hope I have a fair solution🤦🤦🤦

 2 years ago  

These are brilliant solutions, I think they would work if applied with wisdom and love.

 2 years ago  

"Wisdom and love"...these are great attributes needed to excel on this kind of issue.

Thanks hope dear🥰🤗

 2 years ago  

Yes that's right.

You're welcome Ma'am ☺️.

Wow! This is great. Giving a suicide victim lots of attention would help them being occupied from thinking of suicide.

Yeah such things should not be hidden from their family and so their family should learn to take the info with care and try to give out more attention and support to the victim.

This is a real fair solution.

 2 years ago  

Wow, glad the solutions are fair enough 🤗

👍

I have been depressed once in my life but I am happy because my parents where there for me,sometimes not only situation of life can make you depressed there are many other factors.

And the degree of how deep the person as given to depression will determine how to help the person.

Because it just not about laying around thinking u will literally have a voice in your head,speaking in the negative🤧🤧🤧, it's not a beautiful experience.

It may last a while, but with a little hope and fate you can scall through..

 2 years ago  

Yes that is true, if the victim just gets a little hope and faith like you said and if he or she has people around, it will be easy for them to overcome.

I'm happy you could overcome yours, thank God for letting your parents to always be there for you.

Yeah they really helped me alot, and I hang on to the little Ray of hope I had and have been better ever since 🤗🤗

 2 years ago  

Wow, that is really awesome of you Duke, you are a role model then 😁😁.

😁😁😁thank so much hope

 2 years ago  

You're welcome friend 🥰.

 2 years ago  

When I was a kid, I had dramas where I wanted to take my life...but I think it was just because I'm a kid who never understand life.

In my case, whenever I feel stressed, I am just going for a walk or read self-help books. It really helps me to enlighten my mood.

By the way, this is a nice piece of work😄

!LUV !hivebits

Thank you very much! I really appreciate your comment.

I have always imagined scenarios of reasons why people take their life and I know that things can be really tough; I hope not to experience it but my thoughts about it made publish this article.

 2 years ago (edited) 

Yeah me too, maybe being depressed is really not a joke and a serious matter.

Sharing your thoughts gave some reflection to the readers. The power of writing 😄

Have a nice day, starstrings01 🍀

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Greetings bro.

Chairman! how far with you now

 2 years ago  

I've never been depressed before but I've been with someone who has and it was not really easy getting him to overcome it.

But the major thing we did was to always be there for him and also put him in prayers. Another way to overcome depression is to always try to be around people instead of isolating yourself.

I don't know much but I think if the victim can be around people, it will be of great help.

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Come join Ecency show bro, I'll really love to hear you talk bout this post live.
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