Epistemological discussion around vaccine hesitancy and refusal by employees in the healthcare system.
150 people resign or are fired after refusing to get vaccinated at Houston Methodist. It is the first health system to impose the vaccine requirement.
Original Article: The Texas Tribune
Asymptomatic people can spread the disease and infect those at risk in the hospital setting. Vaccination combined with proper PPE deployment would prevent that from happening. If they don't believe in vaccination or the science behind vaccination then they should not be in the medical profession. They should be fired or find another profession if they do not vaccinate.
People should be fired for refusing the vaccine, am I wrong?
Let's take a little bit of the essence of street epistemology and see where the conversation takes us. Let's see if we can do this without name-calling, downvoting or degrading the conversation to meme's and "watch this video" posts. Be respectful. I will upvote every response that respects the nature of the discussion.
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Nobody should ever be fired for refusing to take some medical procedure, of any kind. What matters is, that it is better to find another job than to risk becoming dead or to wish you were dead at >0.44% probability. And there is no safety data for the long term. So the probability be 30% or 100% probability. I'll decide it's a lot less serious than some say if all my siblings are still walking around five years from now. Until then you have been warned.
Thanks for your reply. Ok, so can we agree that there is no long term data for both vaccines but also no long term data on having COVID?
I can also agree with not requiring the vaccine for specific types of employment. Let me ask this, do you believe that as a society we should do everything that we possibly can to protect those that can not protect themselves?
Barring secret experiments somewhere on humans somewhere, I agree with this.
It is not feasible to do this even for a government. Partly because of the corruptibility of the same will in part join in on the activity rather than help. The people who cannot protect themselves are anyone in a situation they cannot leave . These are the very old and the very young. i am talking about care homes and day care centers.
I had a conversation this morning about an elderly man who had given power of attorney to his children. His adult children are abusing him. There are all kinds of cases of abuse like this.
Wow, that's terrible. There are all kinds of terrible people out there. That's just not right.
Given that the very old and young are in potential situations out of their control and we are in a situation to do something to protect them, like get a vaccine so that we don't pass a virus on to them, should we not?
This is a very big one to deal with and want to trust am not too small to add my view on this, technically for me Letting them go is not the next thing as their are measures that can be adopted to make sure that things go well
Am very much in support of @leprechaun not just because that he supported the motion that no one should be forced to take it,but the fact that it effects on those that took it is not really good here in my country and now thier is a pause in the level of getting people vaccinated.
I wish alot should be put in place in terms of educating people more on it and even medical practitioners should have a good insight before giving it to the citizens
hopefully their should be a way to check the how people's body will reacted to the vaccine before they are been given
Ok, thanks for the reply. I think we can all agree on two concepts. No long term data on the effects of the COVID vaccines but there is also no long term data on the effects of contracting COVID.
I think that's what we are talking about. On a slightly different vein. Do you feel that education would help increase the vaccination rate or decrease the vaccination rate?
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