POBSTREET 28-11-21 #87: what is the difference between the rules of VERIFY YOUR BRAIN community and PROOFOFBRAIN?

in Proof of Brain3 years ago (edited)

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insight.pob present pobstreet in conjunction with @onealfa.pob, where there will be a daily topic raised in which everybody can engage in it, and the daily topic can be reached from the community members, if you have any topics suggestion for the next day drop it in your first or second comment of the day with an #Topic.

The selected topics will be the next day topic, best topic of the week will be selected by the numbers of engagements it attracts.

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reward can be reviewed to add more winners as we are getting bigger.

if you are not in the the categories i personally will be voting accounts according to it engagements daily.

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What's the difference between the rules?

VYB will provide me with the opportunity to provide clear rules on abuse, how the tribe will approach it, and how abuse gets managed. The DV will have no power, but it will still be present. I can DV a post, but the DV will not affect the monetary value of the article.

Community engagement will be a key to managing abuse.

  • While we hope to have a moderation team, we'll still rely on groups like POB, VYB, HW, and HDR to validate many of our searches.
  • The mute function will be used on articles or authors where abuse is justified (i.e., evidence is present and reported to the user and community).
  • People reporting abuse in the VYB community can do so privately and the Anti-abuse team (AAT) can investigate

There will be more to follow. I have to finish writing up the next draft and submit it for review before posting a draft for the community's review.

Dedicated Curation Teams

@Calumam is heading this one up. He's already formed a team and is getting everyone aligned in this matter. He'll handle communications about this effort.


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The DV will have no power, but it will still be present. I can DV a post, but the DV will not affect the monetary value of the article.

That's better than not downvoting at all.
Lack of downvote will not make the community look real but a joke.

That's an interesting opinion. The tribe will have use of the mute function. So, if I DV an article for abuse, it would be to tag that article. I would need to justify the DV, notify the user, seek confirmation of abuse, and then mute the article. The author would be denied the rewards of that article no matter who voted on it or how much it earned.

Great one.
This is the best action that can be taken.
And this will requires the coreteam being very active to the new tribe.

A great opinion to this permit me.

This community is still under hive both pob and vyb. So the downvote won't work in vyb but will affect the creator in hive.
Descipline continues


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True.
Some powerful people would use thier hive influence on other community to curate and downvote.
Anyone with hive power is the greatest in hive blockchain


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Discipline in VYB is covered by the mute function. A lack of a DV function in VYB will NOT shield you from a downvote on the Hive side. If I DV an article in VYB, you won't lose any VYB rewards, but you will lose on Hive/POB.

I don't know if this is the case. I'll have to follow up on it as I'm not sure if the actions of the DV on VYB will affect other platforms.

Yes. Successful implementation requires engagement. If I must "mute" you, I would expect a report of that mute to the community along with the "why".

what is the difference between the rules of VERIFY YOUR BRAIN community and PROOFOFBRAIN?

the difference between the rules of verify your brain community and proof of brain is that,proofofbrain community only downvote anyone that go against,they will be downvoted

but in verify your brain community i don't think there going be anything like downvoting or there will be no downvoting

the only thing is that anybody that go against the rule in verify your brain community will only mute not downvoted

there are lot of discipline in this community there are penalty for plagiarism like we all know and those are the works of hive watchers and spaminator.

the difference between the rules of verify your brain community and proof of brain is that,proofofbrain community only downvote anyone that go against,they will be downvoted

What does that mean? Downvote anyone that goes against someone? Can you describe some examples?


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what am saying is that anybody that go against the rules of proofofbrain community will be downvoted

an example to this is that when anyone plagiarize in the community the person will be downvoted

A discipline action can be taken also without downvoting but it will be a stress to the coreteam.
The admin would always be online because it's the only one that can take a discipline action to plaglarism


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There is no any difference between the rules and regulations of verify your brain and proof of brain apart from the self downvote free


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There is no any difference between the rules and regulations of verify your brain and proof of brain apart from the self downvote free


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yes i understand you but am only trying to differentiate the rules between verify your brain community and proofofbrain

Ok yes, plagiarism is one are where you'll be downvoted. In the case of VYB, downvotes won't have power, but instead I believe it can use the mute function on either the article or author.


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Can there be other be other descipline action taking apart from muting the person forever?


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Mute function might be too harsh as if user on the author.
I understand the reason there is no downvote and it's to promote freedom to the new community.


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is there any other way to bring discipline without downvote or mute?

there must be a team for this work that works day and night

Yes. Engagement, stable tribe policies, and the community's understanding and implementation of them would negate the need of a DV or Mute.

Take Leo Finance, for example. For the most part, I think the message is clear regarding the use of their tag for financial posts only. I'm sure they DV'd a lot in the beginning, but the message is clear for their group and new arrivals.

Unfortunately, I don't think the need for those two functions will ever go away on the blockchain. There has to be a way to protect the users and platform. The trick is to prevent abuse of those functions. The ways the VYB group will work to prevent abuse in either direction is by policy, communication, and transparency.

i learnt that the voting system is quite different, downvote and selfish vote, this new community will be very user friendly as we can perceive it


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There might not yet be full rules of verify your brain tribe yet but proofofbrain community is close to 10 month in existence with so many rules.

There is just a simple different rule between verify your brain and proofofbrain and rules is that where want to avoid centralization by not allowing downvoting


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Right.
Powerful ones has the probability to challenge one but it's the coreteam that should only has the ordercity to threaten one if something is done illegally

Another thing is that verify your brain also avoid self upvoting and that's a very good idea for pob farmers who wanna farm pob token


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When I first joined this community,I said to myself that why are the powerful ones not upvoting thierself when they know they will earn 100% instead of 50%.
But I was wrong because too much of it might be against the rule

For you f aring how descipline action would be taken , there is a mute button.anything suspicious would be mtued

Then if a account is muted due to breaking of rules and regulations without unintentionally,then what how will the person write an apology post?


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Before the person is muted in the new Community, there will be a warning message to the person or a warning alert to the person and that's probably what will happen and if the person ignored it then he should be muted forever

rules of both community are similar only the there are solutions to abuse of downvote.
there are senerio where people downvote other use out of anger of disagreement, so i think we are safer in VYB

I thinks, these are the difference between the two tribe rules for now.

In Verify Your Brain, when you go against the rule you can get mute after warning, while in proof of brain after warning you can get down votes.

Verify your brain frown against self vote I don't think proof of brain has any rule against self vote.

POB has the same rule on SV as Hive. People have gotten DVs with excessive SVs.

Yeah, VYB doesn't like self-voting to any degree.


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so on VYB there wont be self voting, if so that will be nice it will push out some greedy people and have no option than to vote others.


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You're correct that self-votes in VYB won't be tolerated.

I have to write though that I'm not sure it's all about greedy people. Hive appears to tolerate self-voting at the 9-10% VP average mark. Self-voting is a hold-over from Steem where it was expected for people to SV at that time to demonstrate that authors liked their work.

There is that "greedy" word again !LOLZ

Did you hear about the happy Roman?
He was gladiator.

@montpellier, I sent you an $LOLZ on behalf of @mineopoly
Use the !LOL or !LOLZ command to share a joke and an $LOLZ. (3/4)

proofofbrain have no rule against self vote but when it much and excessive some of the core teams stand against it and take action against them


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Yeah, I noticed that as well. I don't know why will anyone be upvoting themselves any ways, when they can vote for others and still get their curration rewards.

I like to see people judge my work by voting or not voting for my post, that way I can know how to improve.

I don't know why will anyone be upvoting themselves any ways, when they can vote for others and still get their curration rewards.

There is no other reason but it's because of greediness that some would curate themself.
Some curate themselves to boost thier post but too much of self Curation is bad


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I am also a victim of self Curation and I do do that to encourage my content and being proud of myself even though nobody curate me

Authors will receive a mute after too many issues involving plagiarism or other forms of fraud.

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